Exactly!
Why do people love''WARS'' more then''TREK''?
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john titor
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I've loved Star Wars as long as I can remember and didn't get really into Star Trek until, um, last week (*is ashamed*), but that's simply because I was introduced to SW as a child whereas whenever ST came on TV my parents went "ew!" and changed the channel (yeah I dunno). So with that, here's my take:
My experience is that Star Wars is more acceptable. somehow. like, the general public has this idea that to be a Star Trek fan you have to go totally all out and go to cons and learn Vulcan, whereas while there are Star Wars nutcases (I say this endearingly), you can also just like the movies. in an ordinary way. It's just gotten more mainstream.
I think this might have something to do with the fact that SW is such a... canon piece? I mean, it absolutely changed cinema, and there's kind of an idea that you have to see Star Wars in order to be a functioning adult. So I think there's simply more exposure, too. Whereas Star Trek has always been more cult...
also, it is much easier to watch all of Star Wars than to watch all of Star Trek.
This has never struck me as a good thing. Actually the fact that the first couple of episodes I saw were Wesley-centric kinda turned me off for a while...
but cowboys have guns!
I believe you have it upon a key factor in the suckage of RotJ.
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I think there was some suit pressure to put in the e-woks as TESB was so dark. The frustrating thing about it is that you have these incredibly intense epic scenes involving Luke and Vader and then it cuts to the E-woks.
ooohhhh didn't know that. but yes. effing teddy bears.
random fact about grace: I hate ewoks with fiery fiery passion.
the only joy I get from ewoks is that during my frequent "original original trilogy"-watching-drinking-marathons, I am usually drunk enough by RotJ that I just swear loudly at the ewoks and then forget about them when they aren't onscreen.
From the rumors I've heard, the Ewoks were originally supposed to be Wookiees...
WOW! I feel sorry for the poor ewok that ever comes near you!
I heard the same rumers, but didn't george lucas have total control over JEDI? I didn't think the ''suits'' over at FOX had any say in what he did?
You gotta be kidding.
You don't think Star Trek has epic scope? It involves an entire galaxy filled with fascinating complex societies, philosophies, rivalries, and histories that span centuries if not millenia. Star Wars does, too, but since I've only seen the movies, it feels comparatively empty to me. If somebody wants to put it on TV in live-action format (I can't stand the cartoons they do), I'm willing to see the SW cosmos fleshed out, as long as Lucas is willing to let someone else do the writing. 
As for the costumes!!!
Well those LOTR rags that the Jedi slouch around in aren't exactly the height of fashion, and Amidala's costumes were downright comical. It's hard to take her seriously as a political leader when she must spend 90% of her waking hours getting her hair done. Starfleet came up with a very nice style in late-DS9 (the purple-grey yoke style). Farscape has both of em beat all hollow for costuming tho.That's true. We should always remember who our real enemies are.Right now in the arena of media hype both Trek and Wars are playing second fiddle to a group of adolescent, emo vampires that sparkle.
By "telling," I'm guessing that means explaining ideas. Still needs to be shown. "In the Pale Moonlight" explored the notion that to defend democracy, sometimes nasty things need to be done. Sisko didn't sit in front of the screen and give us a lecture; the idea was dramatized. But it still was an idea that drove the action, not just action for its own sake.
yes. I am a danger to ewok-kind everywhere.
That's true. We should always remember who our real enemies are.Right now in the arena of media hype both Trek and Wars are playing second fiddle to a group of adolescent, emo vampires that sparkle.
with our powers combined!
Sparkles?! The only thing that sparkles in Trek is the transporter effect.
Hmmm....reminds me of George Carlin's old bit about Football vs Baseball.
"Star Trek is 1960's. It's counter-culture. Star Wars is 1970's. It's pop-culture.
Star WARS implies guns, explosions, death, tragedy, destruction. Star TREK implies a happy little drive somewhere.
In Star Wars the objective of the characters is to overthrow the evil, tyrannical, regime of genocidal Nazi's who have enslaved the entire galaxy in a righteous revolution for freedom, liberty, and justice. In Star Trek the objective of the characters is to get out and meet new people.
In Star Wars the guns are called BLASTERS. BLAST! BLAST! In Star Trek the guns are called phasers. Sounds like something you'd find at an Elton John concert.
In Star Wars the most feared weapon is The Death Star. A weapon of such power and magnitude that it has the ability to destroy entire planets in 5 seconds flat. In Star Trek they have the stun setting.
The ship in Star Wars is called The Millennium Falcon. Sounds like a sports car or an extra large condom brand. In Star Trek the ship is called The Enterprise. What a fun, happy little endeavor we're going to have.
The most recognized alien speices in Star Wars are The Wookies, a race of gaint wolf-men who rip the arms off of people who annoy them. In Star Trek the most recognized alien speices are The Vulcans, a race of elves who think alot."
Oh yeah? Why Trek is better.
Star Trek has Data.
Star Wars has C3P0
Star Trek has Jake Sisko.
Star Wars has Anakin Skywalker.
Star Trek has T'Pau
Star Wars has Queen Amidala (the clueless)
Star Trek has the Orion Syndicate
Star Wars has Jabba the Hutt
Star Trek has tribbles
Star Wars has Ewoks
#1 reason Star Trek rules over Star Wars? No Jar-Jar Binks!
Star Trek has Data.
Star Wars has C3P0
Star Trek has Jake Sisko.
Star Wars has Anakin Skywalker.
Star Trek has T'Pau
Star Wars has Queen Amidala (the clueless)
Star Trek has the Orion Syndicate
Star Wars has Jabba the Hutt
Star Trek has tribbles
Star Wars has Ewoks
#1 reason Star Trek rules over Star Wars? No Jar-Jar Binks!
And they only used it once.
The Ewoks are somewhat redeemed in the fact that they eat people.
Besides, Jar Jar and The Ewoks were only in two movies(Those Ewok kiddie movies don't count). Wesley Crusher, Harry Kim, and Neelix were there for a total of 14 seasons. As horrible as they were, Jar Jar and The Ewoks could at least pull off an action scene.
What evidence of superior Star Wars appreciation do you have?
After the generally crappy prequels I feel SW is entering another prolonged period of dormacy. Nothing like the massive fandom of the early and mid nineties is evident to me.
Thanks to online streaming and various cable syndication I guarantee you more people are enjoying some form of Trek on an monthly basis than SW.
I think my Master Replica electronic lightsaber, small action figure collection and all but Phantom Menace DVD collection make me enough of a fan where I can't be accused of complete ST bias.
After the generally crappy prequels I feel SW is entering another prolonged period of dormacy. Nothing like the massive fandom of the early and mid nineties is evident to me.
Thanks to online streaming and various cable syndication I guarantee you more people are enjoying some form of Trek on an monthly basis than SW.
I think my Master Replica electronic lightsaber, small action figure collection and all but Phantom Menace DVD collection make me enough of a fan where I can't be accused of complete ST bias.
Was this picture alterd in any way?(besides the obvious) I mean look at those EYES!They have the stun setting in Star Wars, too, BTW.
As for ewoks...
My lord that ewok looks psycho!(the BUCK teeth don't help any)
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