New Ships Revealed!

[RAMA]

I've been looking at the pic blown-up 400% and I'm starting to think the one I surmised that might be a Kelvin Type (on the lower left side...)..., isn't...​

It appears to my eyes to be more of a Reliant Type with two nacelles below a primary hull only.​

It also appears to be docked sideways instead of nose in.
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I couldn't decide fully either. I turned the contrast and brightness the whole way up and still couldn't decide:



I'm still thinking it's a Kelvin, but something about it does seem 'off.'

These are my best (quickly drawn) guesses at this point:



I'm still not entirely convinced the three ships in red - the 'arc ships' - are all of the same configuration. Nor am I entirely sure that all of the purple ships I dubbed 'sombrero' are all the same type.

But clearly, we have at least five ship types here.

I LOVE that! Legend and all!

 

[Richard Baker]

Some nice work there- You did good sleuthing from those fuzzy iamges.

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[Praetor]

Ahh...Trekkies...

...ruining everything.

We all do what we're best at, Squig.

I've been looking at the pic blown-up 400% and I'm starting to think the one I surmised that might be a Kelvin Type (on the lower left side...)..., isn't...​

It appears to my eyes to be more of a Reliant Type with two nacelles below a primary hull only.​

It also appears to be docked sideways instead of nose in.
​

I couldn't decide fully either. I turned the contrast and brightness the whole way up and still couldn't decide:



I'm still thinking it's a Kelvin, but something about it does seem 'off.'

These are my best (quickly drawn) guesses at this point:



I'm still not entirely convinced the three ships in red - the 'arc ships' - are all of the same configuration. Nor am I entirely sure that all of the purple ships I dubbed 'sombrero' are all the same type.

But clearly, we have at least five ship types here.

I LOVE that! Legend and all!

Some nice work there- You did good sleuthing from those fuzzy iamges.

Thanks to you both.

I think my nerd points just got +2.

 

[milo bloom]

Weird, I'm loving every other ship design in this movie *except* the new Enterprise. And it's like they're *so* close to getting it, too. I guess they want the "hero" ship to be easily recognizable, but to me it stands as coming from a different design lineage (esp as compared to the Kelvin, which is just poetry in motion to my eyes).

 

[cooleddie74]

I like most of those designs. A nice take on "ring ships", even if it's about a century later than we all expect to see ring ships used by humans based on the semi-canonical timeline.

 

[Kemaiku]

The ones noted as "Kelvin" type both appear to be just a saucer with a tiny Nacelle directly attached underneath, they don't look like the Kelvin to me, indicating a variant or another class.

 

[Richard Baker]

They are not true 'Ring Ships' like the old E protosketch and the ST-E Vulcan ships. Those had a hoop shaped warp engine, these ships I think have more of a design similar to the Miranda class only curved instead of flat plates bent.

 

[cooleddie74]

They are not true 'Ring Ships' like the old E protosketch and the ST-E Vulcan ships. Those had a hoop shaped warp engine, these ships I think have more of a design similar to the Miranda class only curved instead of flat plates bent.

Maybe these are unrefitted Soyuz or Miranda class in this timeline? Be a nice tip of the hat to those later ships.

 

[Praetor]

The ones noted as "Kelvin" type both appear to be just a saucer with a tiny Nacelle directly attached underneath, they don't look like the Kelvin to me, indicating a variant or another class.

If you look at the high-contrast image, there's definitely something else there besides the nacelle which is why I guessed it to be a Kelvin.

They are not true 'Ring Ships' like the old E protosketch and the ST-E Vulcan ships. Those had a hoop shaped warp engine, these ships I think have more of a design similar to the Miranda class only curved instead of flat plates bent.

Maybe these are unrefitted Soyuz or Miranda class in this timeline? Be a nice tip of the hat to those later ships.

If so, my bet is that the nacelles are mounted on the 'roll bar' and there are either two small Kelvin secondary hulls where the Miranda nacelles were - or two more nacelles.

 

[Richard Baker]

Maybe these are unrefitted Soyuz or Miranda class in this timeline? Be a nice tip of the hat to those later ships.

That would be very cool it true- after debasing so much Trek history it would be nice for them to honor some elements like that.

 

[cooleddie74]

Maybe these are unrefitted Soyuz or Miranda class in this timeline? Be a nice tip of the hat to those later ships.

That would be very cool it true- after debasing so much Trek history it would be nice for them to honor some elements like that.

Besides, both classes of ships probably existed before TMP(2273)in an older design so it would only make sense they'd be around during the TOS era.

 

[shapeshifter]

I give ILM some credit for these ship designs, they do appear as though they could be TOS era ships we never got to see.

About the Station though, I like it but it appears somehow out of place among the ships it is serving. The NuEnt appears the only thing in it's league so perhaps it is a new construct too?

 

[Richard Baker]

I have a feeling that this film to help emphasise the change in the timeline (new tech) we will see some sharp demarcations between the old and new tech areas. The station could be a mix and when you first step onto the NuEnterprise it will be the first time you are completely surrounded with the new gen hardware.
Just a guess...
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[Praetor]

I have a feeling that this film to help emphasise the change in the timeline (new tech) we will see some sharp demarcations between the old and new tech areas. The station could be a mix and when you first step onto the NuEnterprise it will be the first time you are completely surrounded with the new gen hardware.
Just a guess...
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I have a feeling you're right.

 

[M'Sharak]

The two types of shuttlecraft seen in that big hangar (Did they use the one for the Macon and its sister rigid airship?)

It's my understanding that they used the hangar at the old Marine Corps Air Station in Tustin:

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See also here, here, and click.

Thanks for the links M'Sharak.

A quick google/wiki session indicates the homefield for the US Navy airship USS Macon was Moffett Federal Airfield in Santa Clara County, California, known in the 1930's as NAS Sunnyvale. The Tustin hangar looks like it was built for a big rigid airship too.

Navy blimps, anyway; you can see in the third link above (or here, scroll down a bit) a photo of the hangar interior occupied by six blimps at once. I also thought of the Moffett Field hangar at first -- used to go by it on the freeway sometimes, when I lived up that way -- but I imagine the Tustin facility was selected for being closer to the studio and thus more convenient.

 

[yakueb]

I have a feeling that this film to help emphasise the change in the timeline (new tech) we will see some sharp demarcations between the old and new tech areas. The station could be a mix and when you first step onto the NuEnterprise it will be the first time you are completely surrounded with the new gen hardware.
Just a guess...
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I have a feeling you're right.

I think that the Nuprise in this film is specially (or at least with in mind) designed for time travel.

 

[Richard Baker]

The ship being designed for time travel is an interesting idea. It would sort of depend on when 'Old-Classic Spock' would tell them they are in an altered time line since they would have no idea the timeline would have been changed. Another problem is that if they use the ship to correct the timelime then JJA's new take on Star Trek would revert back to GR's 1960's version of the timelime complicating any sequels. It sounds like from the interviews he intends to keep the new time line with the nuTech and wilder, more dangerous universe around for a while.

 

[Jeyl]

So....is this another case of "The Enterprise is the ONLY Constitution ship ever made!" routine now?

 

[Lior .B.]

So....is this another case of "The Enterprise is the ONLY Constitution ship ever made!" routine now?

Shouldn't the prototype also be in service alongside the enterprise?

 

[SalvorHardin]

So....is this another case of "The Enterprise is the ONLY Constitution ship ever made!" routine now?

Shouldn't the prototype also be in service alongside the enterprise?

Well,it seems that the Enterprise is a prototype.
And we have no idea if this time it is a Constitution class ship. It probably isn't.