This is probably the stupidest thread I think I'm going to make on this forum. I've tried and failed to express why I believe the new Wonder Woman animated movie wasn't a good representation on what made her, well, Wonder Woman. I've also tried to convince Star Wars fans that Padme's death was one of the most poorly written character deaths that makes Kirk's death in Generations look like Shakespeare. But what I'm about to discuss is pretty much aiming against the very thing I've liked ever since I've gotten into Star Trek. And that thing I challenge is the original crew being mostly populated by males.
Folks, I've got nothing against the original crew. I love Kirk, Spock, Bones, Uhura, Sulu, Chekov and Scotty. But since this crew outnumbers the female crew members six to one, don't you think the idea of going with essentially EVERYONE of the original crew kind of diminish the idea of an optimistic future where females can become first officers and captain their own ship?
Just look at "The Cage". Gene Roddenberry wanted a very capable female crew member who actually had a position that was high in profile, but the studio didn't want that so what we got now was an operator named Uhura, a Yeoman who clings to the closest man in her proximity and is always victimized. And don't forget the obligatory nurse who the series actually abandoned by the time the movies came out.
I think it's also funny how every time there is an attempt to put a female in a bridge position that's not limited to just answering calls or taking your coats, they always somehow get removed. Illia was a cool looking character, but she got zapped and was never heard from again. Saavik was awesome as a helmsman in Star Trek II, but she disappeared for no good reason in Star Trek IV and never came back. And than we have Valeris who, for being the only outside crew member of the original cast was the traitor of the bunch.
I wish I could mention Janeway as a strong candidate for a female role, but she was so horribly written in the long run of the show that she came off more of an arrogant sissy than a strong and capable Captain. At least Sisco had the decency to look past gender and actually get his crew to do better at what they do. Archer doesn't get jack since he only gave one uniform to one female crew member while the other one got a skin tight outfit.
Which brings me to ST09. I really don't think going with ALL of the original crew members was the way to go in this movie. As I said earlier, I love the original crew, but this isn't supposed to be the exact Star Trek we know. Like why couldn't they have written Number One from the Cage into this movie? Why does Uhura still have to be a background comms officer? Why couldn't it have been Kirk's mother who captained the Kelvin instead of his father (Ya, isn't that idea just stupid)? I know she's supposed to be giving birth and all during the attack, but why does every plot detail have to fall on the soft cushy pillow of cliché? Kirk follows in his father's footsteps, Spock follows in his fathers path towards being a Vulcan, and Uhura looks like she's there only to be the person we see undress and the one to hug.
Maybe I'm looking at this the wrong way, but I can't help myself. Why are we going from a series that literally took a chance in Star Trek Voyager at having a female captain with an almost equal male/female ratio BACK to the 6 to 1 ratio again?
Folks, I've got nothing against the original crew. I love Kirk, Spock, Bones, Uhura, Sulu, Chekov and Scotty. But since this crew outnumbers the female crew members six to one, don't you think the idea of going with essentially EVERYONE of the original crew kind of diminish the idea of an optimistic future where females can become first officers and captain their own ship?
Just look at "The Cage". Gene Roddenberry wanted a very capable female crew member who actually had a position that was high in profile, but the studio didn't want that so what we got now was an operator named Uhura, a Yeoman who clings to the closest man in her proximity and is always victimized. And don't forget the obligatory nurse who the series actually abandoned by the time the movies came out.
I think it's also funny how every time there is an attempt to put a female in a bridge position that's not limited to just answering calls or taking your coats, they always somehow get removed. Illia was a cool looking character, but she got zapped and was never heard from again. Saavik was awesome as a helmsman in Star Trek II, but she disappeared for no good reason in Star Trek IV and never came back. And than we have Valeris who, for being the only outside crew member of the original cast was the traitor of the bunch.
I wish I could mention Janeway as a strong candidate for a female role, but she was so horribly written in the long run of the show that she came off more of an arrogant sissy than a strong and capable Captain. At least Sisco had the decency to look past gender and actually get his crew to do better at what they do. Archer doesn't get jack since he only gave one uniform to one female crew member while the other one got a skin tight outfit.
Which brings me to ST09. I really don't think going with ALL of the original crew members was the way to go in this movie. As I said earlier, I love the original crew, but this isn't supposed to be the exact Star Trek we know. Like why couldn't they have written Number One from the Cage into this movie? Why does Uhura still have to be a background comms officer? Why couldn't it have been Kirk's mother who captained the Kelvin instead of his father (Ya, isn't that idea just stupid)? I know she's supposed to be giving birth and all during the attack, but why does every plot detail have to fall on the soft cushy pillow of cliché? Kirk follows in his father's footsteps, Spock follows in his fathers path towards being a Vulcan, and Uhura looks like she's there only to be the person we see undress and the one to hug.
Maybe I'm looking at this the wrong way, but I can't help myself. Why are we going from a series that literally took a chance in Star Trek Voyager at having a female captain with an almost equal male/female ratio BACK to the 6 to 1 ratio again?