Well nero asks captain robau the stardate, so he knows he's in the past, and they work out it will take approx 25 years for prime spock to show up, so i would say he knows he has changed history.
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Well nero asks captain robau the stardate, so he knows he's in the past, and they work out it will take approx 25 years for prime spock to show up, so i would say he knows he has changed history.
I would presume Number One would have her own ship by now. Its eight years after when the cage would have happened if Nero wouldn't have wiped out all of trek save Enterprise.
That's true, but the question is really about the fact that this is an alternate universe now. Unlike in 99% of the other Trek time travel excursions wherein the time travelers ended up in a... something akin to the same timeline, simply modified, and so could set things right and return to their original, repaired timeline, in this film, the time travel, for whatever reason, creates a wholly different, disconnected timeline which is, if I am not mistaken, referred to specifically as an alternate universe. There is no resetting things, fixing the timeline, etc. In other words, the Vulcan Nero destroys isn't the one from his own timeline, but a "different," alternate one. Does he know this, or not?
Residing in a klingon prison, thanks partly to george kirk's actions, planning the best way to punish spock. Alternate universe wise possibly not all he knew is that older spock would still feel the pain of watching it destroyed without being able to help.
What the hell, so he could take a moment to Gloat?
No he knows a) spock is on board and b) there is info he wants from pike.
Is it ever revealed, in the film, exactly what year it is? Or are we just guessing, based on Kirk's age?
I'm assuming you mean the non adult kirk/spock scenes, yes the spock scene i enjoyed more, but they both work, and they are just the right length.
Do we see any Klingon ships in the film? I heard Nero destroys quite a lot of them at one point.
Is Kirk's boarding the Enterprise his first time in space? (not counting when he was born on the shuttle).
Is the starship he sees in Iowa the Enterprise or not?
Are Kirk and Spock classmates at the academy?
Does Nero attack Earth?
Is Kirk's boarding the Enterprise his first time in space? (not counting when he was born on the shuttle).
Is the starship he sees in Iowa the Enterprise or not?
Are Kirk and Spock classmates at the academy?
Does Nero attack Earth?
A thought that's just occurred to me: We know that a clone of Earth exists in the episode Miri. Well if there can be another Earth, why not another Vulcan? Maybe in the new timeline, such a duplicate world could become the new home of the refugees from the prime Vulcan? They'd have no trouble interbreeding with the planet's indigenous Vulcans, thus ensuring their race's continued survival in the Trek universe.
That would be cheese.
I should imagine Trek's well used to cheese by now. I would never have suggested this if the producers hadn't gone completely over the top in wiping out the original. Not a very good move, IMO.
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I haven't seen it but from what I have read the movie makes it clear that Pike is the first captain of the Enterprise so I really really doubt there is anything about April.
I'm fairly sure they are. I remember reading that we'd see Sam at some point. Also that Frank, the abusive, violent drunk, would be the one to raise the boys this time (don't know why Winona wouldn't...she *is* their mother, after all), which would explain why Kirk is such a loser when we first meet him.
Good.
I know I keep harping on this, but I would hope that all of you reading this would realize how totally stupid it would be to give a fresh-faced cadet the permanent rank of Captain.
VERY good. Pike is cool. Glad to see he'll recover. I wonder if Kirk and Spock will serve with him again?
So much for Number One, then... Would have been nice to see who they might have tapped to play her.
Come to think of it, so much for the Talosians, since apparently this all means that "The Menagerie" can't happen as it originally did.
I know this is JJ's universe, but this is awfully unfair to the late Jeffrey Hunter, Majel, and of course, whoever it was who played Veena.
"Beep beep"
I'm fairly sure they are. I remember reading that we'd see Sam at some point. Also that Frank, the abusive, violent drunk, would be the one to raise the boys this time (don't know why Winona wouldn't...she *is* their mother, after all), which would explain why Kirk is such a loser when we first meet him.
Good.
I know I keep harping on this, but I would hope that all of you reading this would realize how totally stupid it would be to give a fresh-faced cadet the permanent rank of Captain.
VERY good. Pike is cool. Glad to see he'll recover. I wonder if Kirk and Spock will serve with him again?
So much for Number One, then... Would have been nice to see who they might have tapped to play her.
Come to think of it, so much for the Talosians, since apparently this all means that "The Menagerie" can't happen as it originally did.
I know this is JJ's universe, but this is awfully unfair to the late Jeffrey Hunter, Majel, and of course, whoever it was who played Veena.
"Beep beep"
Um how is this unfair to Hunter, Pike is in the movie.
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