I remember having a crush on a girl in my class when I was in Kindergarten.
Gay Trek Fans, at what age did you know?
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TheLonelySquire
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An 11 year old near me might have committed suicide because he was "gay".
First off I hate sexual orientation, it's really lame. 99.9% of everyone, if they admit it or not, will have a same sex experience in their life time.
Second, and more importantly, if this becomes some kind of gay, bi, trans feeding ground of hate I will be the first to ask for this to be closed, and will be the first reporting such people.
So I was wondering when everyone here realized it's fine to like everyone?
I had a friend who knew since at least 11-12, and I was 13-14, however old I was in 8th grade.
Wait, a child kills himself and it's because he is gay or presumed to be? Maybe he had some other issue?
Also, I'd also like to know what your definition of hate is, because while I don't hate homosexuals I consider homosexuality to be wholly immoral. Hopefully you're okay with that.
And I like most people. Heterosexual or not.
My first memory of liking a girl, in a (very) romantic way, is from when I was four years old.
Now, at the time I obviously didn't know there was a name for "people like me" (
), but I sure knew what I liked and what I wanted.
As far as I'm concerned, every time somebody asks how long I've known, I always reply that I was born that way.
There has never been a doubt in my mind, nor in my heart.
Now, at the time I obviously didn't know there was a name for "people like me" (
), but I sure knew what I liked and what I wanted.As far as I'm concerned, every time somebody asks how long I've known, I always reply that I was born that way.
There has never been a doubt in my mind, nor in my heart.
Support from Heterosexuals, perhaps?
In retrospect I found both guys and girls attractive in 3rd-4th grade, but didn't realize it until middle school.
So it seems everyone can under an 11 year old knowing. There is a lot more to the sick suicide than him maybe being gay. He was supposedly worried about the death treats he was getting from other classmates. if he was worried about that, then why would he kill himself?
I knew I was attracted to the same sex (men) from the age of 5 and a half.
How?
Simple.
My cousin showed me a heterosexual porn movie at the age of 5 (and my cousin along with anyone else in the family never attempted anything sexual with me at any age) ... at the time I really didn't think anything of the movie itself, but months later, I began having sexual fantasies (about my uncles who were in their 30-ies at the time) which covered incest and pedophilia among other things.
Plus I almost did something physical with one of my uncles at the age of 7 or 8 (while my uncle was sleeping I tried groping him ... I got close ... but I ultimately backed down because by then I knew of the possibility that he might get angry if he woke up and I went any further).
I never had a sexual desire for a female, and I never felt the need to be with one (so I didn't ... and I don't have a sensation as if I'm 'missing out' on something).
I know that I'm attracted to males, and that's it, deal with it.
As for people who realize they are homosexual and wanting to commit suicide ...
It happens because the environment in which they live in is not very open-minded about homosexuality (or just being different in any way) paints an image of something 'bad/immoral/whatnot'.
A lot of kids go through plenty emotional abuse because they are thought to be homosexuals/different, so some of them cannot deal with it, and feel that they cannot go to anyone ... for them, the only real means of 'escape' or dealing with it is death (because let's face it ... how exactly do you expect of a child to deal against a whole 'army' of people abusing them emotionally in one way or the other if they aren't predisposed or have the will to deal with such psychological aspects on their own ... something that not everyone are able to do at a very young age).
I grew up relatively fast because of the faster realization of my sexual attraction ... or at the very least, it provided a different insight into how life works and a unique perception of the world.
Perhaps it contributed to mental/emotional maturity ... who knows ... but I know I am grateful to myself I didn't kill myself even though the environment I grew up in was not painting a nice image of being different to begin with.
I enjoy being different ... not just on the premise of my sexual orientation, but other aspects.
Why conform to the majority and (sometimes) stupidity of what society imposes on you?
I mean sure, if it suits you, then go right ahead, but don't behave like a close-minded idiot and prey on those who turn out to be different.
How?
Simple.
My cousin showed me a heterosexual porn movie at the age of 5 (and my cousin along with anyone else in the family never attempted anything sexual with me at any age) ... at the time I really didn't think anything of the movie itself, but months later, I began having sexual fantasies (about my uncles who were in their 30-ies at the time) which covered incest and pedophilia among other things.
Plus I almost did something physical with one of my uncles at the age of 7 or 8 (while my uncle was sleeping I tried groping him ... I got close ... but I ultimately backed down because by then I knew of the possibility that he might get angry if he woke up and I went any further).
I never had a sexual desire for a female, and I never felt the need to be with one (so I didn't ... and I don't have a sensation as if I'm 'missing out' on something).
I know that I'm attracted to males, and that's it, deal with it.
As for people who realize they are homosexual and wanting to commit suicide ...
It happens because the environment in which they live in is not very open-minded about homosexuality (or just being different in any way) paints an image of something 'bad/immoral/whatnot'.
A lot of kids go through plenty emotional abuse because they are thought to be homosexuals/different, so some of them cannot deal with it, and feel that they cannot go to anyone ... for them, the only real means of 'escape' or dealing with it is death (because let's face it ... how exactly do you expect of a child to deal against a whole 'army' of people abusing them emotionally in one way or the other if they aren't predisposed or have the will to deal with such psychological aspects on their own ... something that not everyone are able to do at a very young age).
I grew up relatively fast because of the faster realization of my sexual attraction ... or at the very least, it provided a different insight into how life works and a unique perception of the world.
Perhaps it contributed to mental/emotional maturity ... who knows ... but I know I am grateful to myself I didn't kill myself even though the environment I grew up in was not painting a nice image of being different to begin with.
I enjoy being different ... not just on the premise of my sexual orientation, but other aspects.
Why conform to the majority and (sometimes) stupidity of what society imposes on you?
I mean sure, if it suits you, then go right ahead, but don't behave like a close-minded idiot and prey on those who turn out to be different.
I had my first experience at the age of 10 if I remember correctly. She was 8 and she initiated it. We were caught by my Aunt, and I don't think I got to hang out with her at all after that. I blocked it out of my memories due to other things that happened to me around the same time. I had the memories come back after many times of long talks with my husband. Then to realize I also was in love with my best friend in 7th - 9th grade looking back on things.
Then at age 20 I met a lady at a 4th of July cook out. She was amazing and beautiful and stole my heart....
It seems the older you get the harder it is to find someone.. Especially if you are not into the Club scene.. I wish I had known in school I wonder if things would have been easier if I did....
Then at age 20 I met a lady at a 4th of July cook out. She was amazing and beautiful and stole my heart....
It seems the older you get the harder it is to find someone.. Especially if you are not into the Club scene.. I wish I had known in school I wonder if things would have been easier if I did....
So your assertion that 99+% of us will have a same sex experience is really a view based on your own bisexuality? Or is that source for the figure forthcoming?
So have you never been checked out by a gay guy, or had a guy offer to buy you a drink, or anything remotely like that happen to you?
Rii
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Why else would you tell someone you had a crush on them?
I'm sure he has, as have most people, but if that qualifies as a homosexual experience then that makes the statement fairly meaningless.
A dog humped my leg once, that does not mean I consider myself to have had a bestial experience
I'm sure he has, as have most people, but if that qualifies as a homosexual experience then that makes the statement fairly meaningless.
A dog humped my leg once, that does not mean I consider myself to have had a bestial experience
How does it make the statement fairly meaningless? It's first hand experience of homosexual activity, regardless of whether the act is reciprocated or not. I highly doubt that the OP was insinuating that 99.9% of guys will, at some point, suck a dick. Or that 99.9% of women will become scissor sisters. That's just ridiculous. However, I can buy into the idea that at some point in their lives, 99.9% of people will experience some form of homosexual behaviour, even if that is only something as innocuous as being asked out by a member of the same sex.
I remember 'exploring' with a male friend when I was about 7 or 8. Exploring meaning just checking each other's goods out. I remember being intrigued but not thinking I was gay. A few weeks later, a friend of my mom's came over with her daughter. My friend and I decided to include her. I remember being excited about the opportunity to check out a girl! Once it happened, I realised it did nothing for me. I was more interested in my friend.
I always thought maybe i was just too young and that once i reached puberty the attraction to girls would kick in. Well, I'm 40 and still waiting...
I always thought maybe i was just too young and that once i reached puberty the attraction to girls would kick in. Well, I'm 40 and still waiting...
The statement appears to be deliberately ambiguous to appear more controversial than in fact it is. Which is evidenced by the number of people who took it to mean what they did.
If in fact it is saying what you suggest, then it isn't saying much as I doubt that would come as a surprise to anyone.
^ I'm quite surprised by it. That's a lot! So, supposedly 10% of the population has managed to proposition, wink at, or whatever, almost 100% of the population? That's a bit excessive!
Well, I didn't really expect it to be news to anyone, I just percieved it as a throwaway remark to loosely illustrate how homosexuality is commonplace now. I wasn't expecting people to start asking for sources, or start trying to quantify what constitutes a "homosexual experience".
^ You really don't hang around here much, huh? That is how EVERY topic ends up. This place is full of pedantic posters who make it their personal little sport to do this sort of thing.
One can live in hope.
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