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Do You Prefer the 'All Good Things' Future?

Which future for the TNG crew do you prefer?

  • The 'All Good Things' future

    Votes: 8 12.1%
  • The future that has 'actually' happened so far

    Votes: 28 42.4%
  • Elements of both

    Votes: 24 36.4%
  • Neither

    Votes: 6 9.1%

  • Total voters
    66
The funny thing is that I'm listening to a pretty good youtube tribute to the Klingons(they did have some cranking good theme music IMO)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfjwRkooXhE&feature=related

The Klingons would not know aesthetics if you hit them over the head with a beautifully craved statue by Tavor Kell. So it's no surprise that their ship designs have remained stagnant for so long.

Say, that is good music. And I agree. Tavor Kell was a genius, anyway. ;)

And humble, moi? The truth is that a certain amount of humility can be useful in...lulling people into a false sense of security:shifty:

(The new avatar is quite entertaining BTW!)
Heh. :p

(And thanks.)

On the Negh'vars (or Voodiehs or whatever) I was always disappointed we never saw more of them in DS9. It was always (or at least seemed to be) Vor'chas and BoPs.

You know, for that matter, it's a shame they didn't put the Olympic class model to further use after scratch-building it for 'AGT.' Come to think of it, I don't know what happened to that model...

The Olympic class makes a brief appearance in countdown#3 I believe
 
Even the ones without. ;)

Indeed, just ask the Dominion.

Yes, the Star Empire was going to handle that whole wormhole/Dominion problem quite handily until the Federation butted in. Stupid time-shifting Irishman. :p

I can't help but think a more realistic AGT future adjusted for DS9 would have shown a Quadrant overrun by the Dominion. Alternately, perhaps the Romulans of that timeline did handle the wormhole and DS9 was destroyed, and the Klingon conflict began when the Klingons invaded Cardassia was never put aside to unite against the Dominion?

Those miserable space-vikings might have conquered both Romulus and Cardassia... :rolleyes:
 
Even the ones without. ;)

Indeed, just ask the Dominion.

Yes, the Star Empire was going to handle that whole wormhole/Dominion problem quite handily until the Federation butted in. Stupid time-shifting Irishman. :p

I can't help but think a more realistic AGT future adjusted for DS9 would have shown a Quadrant overrun by the Dominion. Alternately, perhaps the Romulans of that timeline did handle the wormhole and DS9 was destroyed, and the Klingon conflict began when the Klingons invaded Cardassia was never put aside to unite against the Dominion?

Those miserable space-vikings might have conquered both Romulus and Cardassia... :rolleyes:


My worst nightmare confirmed. This is why I fear for the new timeline:(
 
Eh, I'm sure Cardassia will be fine, and the

refugees will probably either start a new Empire, or reunify with Vulcan. Either way, not bad.
 
Eh, I'm sure Cardassia will be fine, and the

refugees will probably either start a new Empire, or reunify with Vulcan. Either way, not bad.

Yes but:
There are hints that the Klingon Empire will become even stronger and aggressive in the new timeline, acting as a adversary for the UFP. (I'm hoping that Cardassia emerges in a stronger position where it can act as a counterweight to the KE)
 
The space Vikings will never conquer Romulus or Cardassia - not in my little world, anyway, and what other one matters? If it doesn't happen on screen, it's not canon and it didn't happen neener neener neener.

Besides...it just doesn't make any damn sense. Even the best Klingon warriors are merely a horde once you get them together, and while a horde can be effective against fleeing peasantry, they haven't got much of that in the 24th century.
 
The space Vikings will never conquer Romulus or Cardassia - not in my little world, anyway, and what other one matters? If it doesn't happen on screen, it's not canon and it didn't happen neener neener neener.

Besides...it just doesn't make any damn sense. Even the best Klingon warriors are merely a horde once you get them together, and while a horde can be effective against fleeing peasantry, they haven't got much of that in the 24th century.


QFT, againist either Cardassian or Romulan tactical or strategic brilliance those Klingon jackals wouldn't stand a chance.
Even the Federation gave them a run for their money.
 
I can't help but think a more realistic AGT future adjusted for DS9 would have shown a Quadrant overrun by the Dominion. Alternately, perhaps the Romulans of that timeline did handle the wormhole and DS9 was destroyed, and the Klingon conflict began when the Klingons invaded Cardassia was never put aside to unite against the Dominion?

I like that theory.

I'd go elements of both, but if I had to pick it would be the current one.
The whole AGS future was just too dark and depressing like something out of Babylon 5 (from what I've seen of it), and not good dark like DS9 which was a kind of "if your not in a cushy federation you have to get a bit more rough" but more like "it's all over why even bother to live?" dark.

The Ships
Although for reasons that baffle me now (maybe it was the angle of the first picture I saw?) I used to dislike the E design I think the E looks much cooler than the triple nacelled D, though I did think it looked good too.

I did like the cloaking device on the ship and always loved it on the Defiant.

The bridge..did anyone else notice that big boxy thing they put on the security station in alot of TNG alternate timelines? It really annoyed me for some reason...just looks so goofy and out of place.

I loved the Pastuer and the whole idea of a medical ship and Beverly finally getting to use those command skils again.

I also loved the Neg'var class Klingon ships, I didn't mind the D being destroyed but I really wish it wasn't a pissy little BOP that destroyed it, if it was taken down by 1-2 Neg'vars under Duras control that would have been going down with some honor.

The Crew
I'd rather Data was alive and Troi dead, Data was a far more interesting character than Troi and he WAS the one meant to live forever...

Picard with the futurisitic Alzihmers was just depressing but it did make a point that anyone can be taken down with illness no matter how great they are.

Bitter angry cynical Worf and Riker were also depressing.

The Political Landscape
Wheres all this love for the Romulans coming from all of a sudden??? I thought they were the least interesting main enemy ST ever had.
 
Wheres all this love for the Romulans coming from all of a sudden??? I thought they were the least interesting main enemy ST ever had.

Sacrilege!!! :mad: :mad:

;)

They were a lot more interesting before the Klingons got a transplant of their warrior's honor angle after TOS... but I think they still do well. I like an enemy that is difficult to hate.

I'm honestly curious why you found them disinteresting?

(And I also like your observations regarding the AGT future.)
 
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