Re: Job Interviews Of Fail: This Time I'm On The Other Side Of The De
I learned afterward not to disclose jack to HR people and not to let them buffalo me. My dad told me never to let them do that. He had been offered and accepted a position for a company and went in to fill out his paperwork. The HR people insisted they needed to know the names of his children and all that and he told them, "None of your business." They persisted, explaining that he couldn't apply for the job unless he disclosed that information. That pissed him off and he told them that the names of his children had nothing to do with the job. Push came to shove, but he held firm. They told him he wouldn't be able to work for the company, and he informed them to check with the supervisor as the job was already his. HR called the supervisor, explain the situation, and then told my dad, "Uh, never mind. We don't need that information."
It never ceases to amaze me at the amount of personal information companies think they need and how willingly most people give it up. I never, ever list any of my son's information with HR of any company I work for. I've known people who had HR play the "we need to know your pay" game, and they've simply walked out only later to be called back because the hiring supervisor *specifically* wants to interview that person and has told HR to go pound sand.
Christ, I hated when HR people did that shit. That's why I didn't do it when I had to do a interview on someone.
A lot times my contracts-- even charity stuff-- would bind me to a non disclosure agreement on the details of the projects; which, of course, would include pay. I can't count how many jobs I ended up missing out on cause I wouldn't tell how much I made on a contract and the interviewers either didn't get or refused to accept "I'm contractually bound not to tell you."
Hell, I had a lead call me up (something set up by a former client) that got pissed when I wouldn't tell how much I charged said client cause "Well, I don't want to find out I'm paying more than [the client that referred him] is." Totally ignoring that they were wholly different projects and that his [the lead] was much larger and more time and labor intensive project.
I learned afterward not to disclose jack to HR people and not to let them buffalo me. My dad told me never to let them do that. He had been offered and accepted a position for a company and went in to fill out his paperwork. The HR people insisted they needed to know the names of his children and all that and he told them, "None of your business." They persisted, explaining that he couldn't apply for the job unless he disclosed that information. That pissed him off and he told them that the names of his children had nothing to do with the job. Push came to shove, but he held firm. They told him he wouldn't be able to work for the company, and he informed them to check with the supervisor as the job was already his. HR called the supervisor, explain the situation, and then told my dad, "Uh, never mind. We don't need that information."
It never ceases to amaze me at the amount of personal information companies think they need and how willingly most people give it up. I never, ever list any of my son's information with HR of any company I work for. I've known people who had HR play the "we need to know your pay" game, and they've simply walked out only later to be called back because the hiring supervisor *specifically* wants to interview that person and has told HR to go pound sand.