Family Guy 7 x 11 - Not All Dogs Go To Heaven.
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I thought this episode was going to be hilarious... apparently not. Too much going on. Family Guy is either hit or miss, and other than the two minutes involving the TNG cast, this episode was stupid.
And that was just a refrence to CaddyShack.
That's the thing with all the refrences. Adult Swim was running the Blue Harvest the other night, and all the refrences made me just want to watch the funny stuff that they were refrencing instead of the actual show.
This show has just become more style over substance. You may get a chuckle or two out of it, but ten minutes later, you're thinking, "what was that episode about anyway?"
I'm seriously disappointed they didn't dedicate the entire episode to the TNG reunion. Why do you waste time with a Meg story? The "Road" Stewie/Brian episodes don't have subplots do they? Well I loved the TNG plot, the Meg story was just alright. ... What I read about the mistreatment of the Meg character: they treated her like a typical teenage girl in the first season, and the fans hated the character, so they turned her into a running butt of every gag to reflect the fan hatred for the character, and that became what defined her rather than anything else.
I don't understand why they treat Meg like that either.
I think its sheer writer laziness, like on the later 'Married With Children'. Even early on, 90% of the crap fell squarely on Al, but the writers were smart, and spread the grief around on occasion. Then, Al's end of ep screwovers became the ep's plot norm. That meant the end of ep had to be a super-screwover, and then that became the norm, and so on. Pretty soon, Wile E. was watching MWC to feel better about himself.
South Park was wrong about FG, back when. Now, its spot on, and Meg's treatment has been driven into the ground. The worm has turned : I'm finding the Simpsons of late to be a better show, if only by inches.
What's even funner (or perhaps more ironic) is the line about the Simpsons in this FG deleted scene from Louis Kills Stewie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJICNimu8SM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJICNimu8SM
That seems to be a recurring pattern. I saw one episode once where, twice in one episode, the "joke" was that Peter told a completely unfunny joke and everyone around him failed to find it the least bit amusing. Why in the world would they think it would be funny to make a point of not being funny? Twice?
I should've known that anything actually funny in FG would be copied from another work.
I saw some of the Star Wars parody, and it wasn't really a parody of SW -- it was just faithful animated recreations of scenes from SW with an occasional disgusting pedophilia "joke" tacked on. I'm not sure it was different enough from SW to qualify as parody rather than plagiarism.
And I cannot for the life of me understand why Seth MacFarlane has gotten anywhere in Hollywood. His writing is derivative and unfunny. His humor is below sophomoric, consisting only of vintage TV references and jokes about sex crimes. His cartooning style is limited and ugly. His acting style is monotonous -- he can do various voices, but they all talk in exactly the same cadence and tone and have no emotional range. And yet he has three shows now!
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You just answered your own question.
MacFarlane should refrain from doing character voices in ads (Hulu) and appearances (like that graduation ceremony), it detracts from the show. That's probably one reason why the Simpsons cast doesn't do the show's voices elsewhere (with rare exceptions).
This was the first time in ages that i have sat down to watch a FG ep and i am sorry i did.
I thought the cast would be a A plot and last time i watch Stewie was evil not gay wtf happened to him.
I thought the cast would be a A plot and last time i watch Stewie was evil not gay wtf happened to him.
but atleast, with MWC the Bundys were the Bundys, a family and all that, all of em, i'm surprised Seth hasn't just had the Griffins murder Meg
The characterization of the football-headed baby definitely seems to have changed. Originally, as I recall, the other characters either couldn't comprehend his megalomaniac rantings as anything other than baby talk, or else simply didn't pay any attention because it was coming from a baby. Which was actually a marginally imaginative conceit. But now it seems that adults (or at least Trek cast members) are able to communicate normally with the baby -- and if I recall that preview clip correctly, the baby is able to drive a car.
A good assessment. Generally it was, like you said, that people either didn't understand Stewie or didn't pay attention, and that his intentions while truly evil were constantly thwarted by the mere fact that he was a baby. I actually enjoyed that idea. Now, however, they're thwarted by the fact that he's an idiot and rife with odd sophomoric 'eccentricities.'
Truly Stewie's personality turn from primarily evil to primarily eccentric is a good barometer for the quality of the show.
I feel that Stewie became lame when Seth decided to make him a closet homosexual instead of just a Matricidal, paranoid lunatic
The stuff that had the TNG cast was pretty good. They didn't need to send TNG up in order to make it funny. I thought it was better that they were complete deviants/idiots, opposite to what you'd expect. The problem was there was so little of it. They're such talented actors and they clearly have a good sense of humour. You could really do something funny with that for half an hour. But no. It was a B-Plot.
The A-Plot was fucking Meg. You know what? I had no troubles with Meg until they started treating her like a joke. You can do that, but the butt of a joke can't be the focus of the episode unless you're going to buck the trend.
It's like they said "Let's do a whole episode where Meg sucks and is ugly!" You can only focus on the loser character if the loser character exacts a victory somewhere along the way. All she did was get her ass handed to her by Brian in the end.
Meg's a self-fulfilling prophecy now for the FG writing staff. They've spent so much time telling us we shouldn't care about her that it's come true.
The A-Plot was fucking Meg. You know what? I had no troubles with Meg until they started treating her like a joke. You can do that, but the butt of a joke can't be the focus of the episode unless you're going to buck the trend.
It's like they said "Let's do a whole episode where Meg sucks and is ugly!" You can only focus on the loser character if the loser character exacts a victory somewhere along the way. All she did was get her ass handed to her by Brian in the end.
Meg's a self-fulfilling prophecy now for the FG writing staff. They've spent so much time telling us we shouldn't care about her that it's come true.
Yeah that's just it. This is the 5th or 6th time that we've seen Peter physically attack Meg, this is going a bit beyond a joke here.
As for the attacks on religion? What more can you say other than they are series of incredibly weak jokes about literal cartoon fundamentalists which are an insult to everyone's intelligence.
To be honest I ignored the Meg bits not just for the lame jokes and cruel attacks on Meg but because of the unfortunate smugness of Brian. It's kinda annoying to have the atheist patronizingly talk down to a Theist, it just makes it out to be a personal quest to prove how much smarter you are to someone who believes in a God. There is no attempt to justify or analyze Meg's conversion(as has been done on the Simpson's) just a few cheap and easy shots at the Religious Right, easy target much?
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As for the cast of TNG I personally liked their all to brief cameos, from the scene where they give helpful DIY advice to the fans at the convention to ordering food at the Fast food place. So a few good jokes but they mostly revolved around Stewart's British accent.
Oh well, maybe next time's the charm
As for the attacks on religion? What more can you say other than they are series of incredibly weak jokes about literal cartoon fundamentalists which are an insult to everyone's intelligence.
To be honest I ignored the Meg bits not just for the lame jokes and cruel attacks on Meg but because of the unfortunate smugness of Brian. It's kinda annoying to have the atheist patronizingly talk down to a Theist, it just makes it out to be a personal quest to prove how much smarter you are to someone who believes in a God. There is no attempt to justify or analyze Meg's conversion(as has been done on the Simpson's) just a few cheap and easy shots at the Religious Right, easy target much?
.As for the cast of TNG I personally liked their all to brief cameos, from the scene where they give helpful DIY advice to the fans at the convention to ordering food at the Fast food place. So a few good jokes but they mostly revolved around Stewart's British accent.
Oh well, maybe next time's the charm
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Yeah, I saw that on the 'tube. WTF was with that, killing off the whole Simpson Family? Not cool.
FG hasn't so much as jumped the shark as raped it (and with that terrible 'joke' I'm now qualified to write for family guy
.)Still the musical pieces are usually quite good (as long as bloody old man Herbert isn't in it. The star Wars song that he did was just awful)
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