DS9 (WYLB) Gettin' Some Luv
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Nice. All Good Things is a good episode, but I really dislike the anti-time technobabble in it.
Sorta agree. Final episodes should pull on the heartstrings and also be immersed in lotsa action. Save the deep, cerebral stuff for another show.
WYLB was a bit rushed and not satisfying regarding the war, but it gave alot of closure to some of the characters and ended DS9 on a nice not.
EndGame sucked the entire band and stage crew. OK they make it to Earth annnnnndddddddddddddd........................???????????????????
Let's face it, people would bitch about BSG regardless. Bitching about it is more than half the fun.
Ah for the olden days of bitching about DS9 after every episode...
Ah for the olden days of bitching about DS9 after every episode...
Let's face it, people would bitch about BSG regardless. Bitching about it is more than half the fun.
Ah for the olden days of bitching about DS9 after every episode...
I use to lurk here or whatever the predecessor to this bbs was back towards the end of season 7 and some of the hate for the last few episodes was impressive. I thought everyone here was a bunch of over-criticising whiny bitches...now I'm one of them.
TNG's finale wasn't a finale in the sense of DS9's, VOY's or ENT's--or BSG's or The Sopranos (which was excellent). Everyone knew they'd be back in movies. And I have to say, I disliked DS9's finale, though not nearly as much as ENT's. I disliked the maudlin flashbacks, the endless goodbyes and, as the article mention's, Sisko becoming an absentee Dad--that whole silly mystical Pah-Wraith plotline, actually, though I enjoyed watching Marc Alaimo chew the scenery. A lot of what I disliked in DS9's ending is mirrored in my dislike of much of BSG's finale, actually--so much so that erroneously thought RDM wrote both.
I have to say I love WYLB. I think they wrapped up the storylines they needed to and were clever enough to focus mainly on the characters. It was a very emotional episode for me, and it was sad to see the show go.
Probably my biggest complaint about the episode is the battle in the firecaves. That was just really anticlimactic for what they had been building in the that storyline, I felt. And I'm saying this as somebody who actually liked the whole storyline about Dukat going mad.
Looking at Star Trek, I really feel the shows got the finales they deserved. DS9 had a complex, involving finale that focussed largely on characters and brought the long-running war to an IMHO very satisfying conclusing. It wrapped up a lot while leaving enough open to make it exiting to think about what might happen next aboard and around the station.
TNG's finale was built around an anomaly in space and time, weaving in the characters with Picard at the center of attention. And everything's nicely wrapped up at the end. It's a very well-thought out predicament the characters find themselves in, and exciting to watch. But it leaves very little to ponder about, I think.
VOY's finale has the ship blasting a few Borg vessels before suddenly arriving at earth. Everyone goes, hooray, and the screen fades to black. There's no follow-up, no emotional reward to the end of this seven year journey. But then, what was there about these characters that would have been interesting to see after they'd arrived? IMHO they'd never been developed enough for it to even matter. In the end, the finale was just as shallow for me as most of the show. All effects, no characters.
ENT's finale is probably even more poignant. The characters are reduced to Holodeck recreations, and the Captain's speech is cut off at the whim of one Commander Riker. As others have said, it's really a TNG episode. Personally, I never felt this was a loss. Because, in the end, I never really felt any kind of attachment to these characters at all. They never actually developed 'character' for me. And the finale seemed to suggest (at least in my view) that the writers basically felt the same way. Who were these people anyway, might be a fitting question.
Probably my biggest complaint about the episode is the battle in the firecaves. That was just really anticlimactic for what they had been building in the that storyline, I felt. And I'm saying this as somebody who actually liked the whole storyline about Dukat going mad.
Looking at Star Trek, I really feel the shows got the finales they deserved. DS9 had a complex, involving finale that focussed largely on characters and brought the long-running war to an IMHO very satisfying conclusing. It wrapped up a lot while leaving enough open to make it exiting to think about what might happen next aboard and around the station.
TNG's finale was built around an anomaly in space and time, weaving in the characters with Picard at the center of attention. And everything's nicely wrapped up at the end. It's a very well-thought out predicament the characters find themselves in, and exciting to watch. But it leaves very little to ponder about, I think.
VOY's finale has the ship blasting a few Borg vessels before suddenly arriving at earth. Everyone goes, hooray, and the screen fades to black. There's no follow-up, no emotional reward to the end of this seven year journey. But then, what was there about these characters that would have been interesting to see after they'd arrived? IMHO they'd never been developed enough for it to even matter. In the end, the finale was just as shallow for me as most of the show. All effects, no characters.
ENT's finale is probably even more poignant. The characters are reduced to Holodeck recreations, and the Captain's speech is cut off at the whim of one Commander Riker. As others have said, it's really a TNG episode. Personally, I never felt this was a loss. Because, in the end, I never really felt any kind of attachment to these characters at all. They never actually developed 'character' for me. And the finale seemed to suggest (at least in my view) that the writers basically felt the same way. Who were these people anyway, might be a fitting question.
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