Or maybe a Romulan Drone ship found its way to the DQ shortly after the Coalition/Star Empire War and was found adrift by the unknown flea ship aliens and used for 200 years as a transport ship until it strayed into Chaotic Space?
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Or maybe a Romulan Drone ship found its way to the DQ shortly after the Coalition/Star Empire War and was found adrift by the unknown flea ship aliens and used for 200 years as a transport ship until it strayed into Chaotic Space?
Or maybe a Romulan Drone ship found its way to the DQ shortly after the Coalition/Star Empire War and was found adrift by the unknown flea ship aliens and used for 200 years as a transport ship until it strayed into Chaotic Space?
Either way might work, but it's a bit too much of a stretch for my tastes. Stupid fleas!
And it is super-pretty, JustKate.
I'd still like to know if it's gold or green...
I vote for gold, but that's only because it would add to that Egyptian Revival feel. Gold makes it look sort of "inner coffin of Queen Nefertiti"-like...green would make it look like Nefertiti's coffin was a little past its sell-by date, if you catch my drift. It would look more Romulan in green, though, and perhaps that should be a more important consideration.
Either way, yeah, super pretty.
Either way, yeah, super pretty.
Why should it be green? The one that fought with Kirk's ship wasn't.
I could live with gold. And since I'm the Praetor, that's what counts, right?
Yeah, but of which Star Empire eh?
I could live with gold. And since I'm the Praetor, that's what counts, right?
Yeah, but of which Star Empire eh?
That's for me to know and you to figure out.
I could live with gold. And since I'm the Praetor, that's what counts, right?
Yeah, but of which Star Empire eh?
That's for me to know and you to figure out.
Don't worry about that, we have ways of finding out this sort of thing
Don't worry about that, we have ways of finding out this sort of thing
And we have ways of preventing you from finding out.
I saw that too(I'm a regular on drex) I would have loved to have seen this on ENTERPRISE! (Curse you moonves, curse you!!)Found here, if you haven't seen it yet. (If not, whyyyy?)
Pretty retro-tacular. I've always liked it.
What do you think of it?
I would just like to say that I thought the ''Green'' bird of preys we saw from ''Minefield'' were the NX class of the romulan star empire! They were just too advanced for there time, thus too expensive to mass produce, and we begin to see much ''simpler'' & cost-effective designs from both sides during the war! notice both Starfleet & the Empire seem to have ''daedalus'' type vessels for fast & affordible construction!
I think that this is the most logical place for this, so...
John Eaves revealing some of the concept art for the new BOP, which I think would have been vastly better. Ah, management.
John Eaves revealing some of the concept art for the new BOP, which I think would have been vastly better. Ah, management.
They would have needed to only do two things to make that BoP design work better for me:
1) Non-blade nacelles - not necessarily cylinders, but maybe. I'd like Earth and Romulus to be technologically on-par.
2) Include the bird graphic (which it wasn't). It's a BIRD OF frakkin PREY!
I could go either way on the color. The fuselage doesn't look bad. But the nacelles, ohhhh the nacelles. John does good work, though. The fact that it cloaked wasn't his fault either.
1) Non-blade nacelles - not necessarily cylinders, but maybe. I'd like Earth and Romulus to be technologically on-par.
2) Include the bird graphic (which it wasn't). It's a BIRD OF frakkin PREY!
I could go either way on the color. The fuselage doesn't look bad. But the nacelles, ohhhh the nacelles. John does good work, though. The fact that it cloaked wasn't his fault either.
That's an excellent question. And an incredibly difficult one to answer, as the art gurus behind 'Enterprise' found out first hand.
I'll bite, though.
First, it's important to keep in mind that appearing 'more primitive' doesn't automatically mean appearing 'less complicated.' Consider primitive televisions: small screens, bulky equipment. It took a lot of technology to accomplish something that now, decades later, can accomplished with tech so small that it's portable. That said, later televisions can do more: they are usually color, have better resolution (partially due to transmission quality, or direct signal rather than transmission) and numerous other advances.
I think a lot depends on whether or not there is a lineage or history. If there is, or if there are at least comments on what the capabilities of the technology of the era are, or the styles of the area, then the form of the technology should logically follow what it is able to do, while also seeming like a plausible 'backstep' from what is shown to come 'later.'
If there is no lineage, then there's a virtual carte blanche.
I know that's not really an answer, but it's the most I can come up with at the moment.
Right. The reason I ask is, while I don't have any specific complaints about the design of the ENT-era BOP, I'll admit I might not have made it such a similar design to the original. I'd include some obvious features that suggest a familiar lineage, but I'd try not to make it necessarily look like the same design with altered aesthetics. Naturally that can be a somewhat blurry line sometimes. 
Just as, when working with the art of kitbashing, it's good to keep things like scale in mind if you want to try and use components from an existing design. That's something that's all too often ignored, or very difficult to do and still make the project look good.
Just as, when working with the art of kitbashing, it's good to keep things like scale in mind if you want to try and use components from an existing design. That's something that's all too often ignored, or very difficult to do and still make the project look good.
Right. The reason I ask is, while I don't have any specific complaints about the design of the ENT-era BOP, I'll admit I might not have made it such a similar design to the original. I'd include some obvious features that suggest a familiar lineage, but I'd try not to make it necessarily look like the same design with altered aesthetics. Naturally that can be a somewhat blurry line sometimes.
You know, the design for the Raptor suggested to me initially that it was going the be the ancestor of the 'modern' Klingon bird of prey. They could have even swapped the nacelles for guns.
I'd have somewhat preferred they avoided using the term 'bird of prey' involving the Klingons in ENT at all, seeing that part of the shtick for it are the painted wings, and that was supposed to be a Romulan identifier in the period per the dialog in 'Balance of Terror.' It doesn't make it Romulan-exclusive but... eh. A bit much for me.
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