Okudachron 2150s Romulan Warship Pictorial at Drexfiles
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Well you also have to take into consideration that the romulans have been more then likely to have been experamenting with different ''warp'' technologys then humans have. Romulans left vulcan over 2,000 years ago! so they must have been capable to go faster then light? Why would they stop with the tech that they had? Unless there was something that caused there warp technology to stagnate?
^I think we both agree on this subject! I wish we saw something like the ''Jumpgates'' from ''B5'' on Enterprise, the producers could have used that to better explain why, at warp 4.5 the NX-O1 got to chronos in a week!
Indeed. However, IIRC author Diane Carey and others have suggested that the armada of ships that left Vulcan carrying the to-be Romulans consisted of relatively primitive generational 'arks' that weren't of very much use once they made it to Romulus and Remus. (In fact, some of them didn't make it, given us other offshoots such as the Mintakans.) Anyway, the newly-settled Romulans essentially had to start over. (Couple this with the generally accepted assumption that the Romulan system and surrounding sectors ultimately proved to be relatively resource-poor, hence the aggressive nature of the Romulans' desire and need for expansion.)
Carey's assertions regarding generational ships may all be somewhat due to the fact that for a long time, many people asserted that the Romulans did not have warp drive in the Earth-Romulan War, perhaps partially based on the notion that the bird of prey in 'Balance of Terror' didn't have warp drive itself based on Scotty's infamous 'impulse only' line. As I've stated many times this is ridiculous for so many reasons - among them, the visibly apparent warp nacelles on the bird of prey in question!
But you are quite correct, the Romulans had many years to experiment with their technology, and it could be this time combined with their new sense of independent identity that resulted in Romulan technology appearing so visually distinct from that of their Vulcan cousins.
I believe it was BBS member aridas sofia who once suggested that early Earth warp ships would use a combination of nacelle-type structures coupled with a freestanding warp accelerator ring to make long-distance warp jumps. This would, over time, be integrated into the ship to form the basis of 'warp coils' as we know them.
Ask and ye shall receive. I put some of the concept work I did for this in the Art forum here. But here's the ship:Yes, you should.
Yay, you didn't forget! That is pretty awesome! I really like that. 
I can easily see this being the smaller fighter companion to the 'bigger' combat cruiser version of the configuration. Out of curiosity, how big did you think this would be? I could easily see this being a surprisingly large ship because of the hardware needed for 'primitive' spaceflight, yet only being a two man ship.
I can easily see this being the smaller fighter companion to the 'bigger' combat cruiser version of the configuration. Out of curiosity, how big did you think this would be? I could easily see this being a surprisingly large ship because of the hardware needed for 'primitive' spaceflight, yet only being a two man ship.
They have warp power which they achieve through impulse reactors. In TNG they achieve the same thing through a small black hole. They don't use M/AM.
That little running Romulan made my day. I'd totally have bought this game.
To be sure, we don't know that the Klingon lend-lease (steal-hijack?) ships retained their original m/am power sources. It's a classic move for a shipbuilding nation to equip its export vessels with inferior powerplants, or for a ship-capturing nation to upgrade the powerplants of its acquisitions, although this currently doesn't happen much in wartime, due to the complexity of the task and the relative briefness of wars.
Perhaps the TOS Romulans, after having spent isolationist centuries perfecting their quantum singularity power source, discarded the Klingon m/am reactors in disgust and installed their own, superior (factually, or at least in their opinion) systems. It's quite possible that the ship in "Balance of Terror" also relied on this exotic quantum singularity power system, which is why Scotty didn't realize that she had a powerful warp drive.
ENT would have us believe that Romulans in the 2150s had warp matching the best that the 2150s Earth could offer, and possibly warp matching the best Vulcan and Andorian achievements of the 2150s. While ENT also hints that Vulcans regressed, and that Earthlings were primitive to begin with, it's possible that a warp 7 capability is indeed the natural result of 2,000 years of isolationist development; perhaps ships can go faster than that only if they are designed by a committee of diverse species (or the design stolen from such a committee), explaining the sudden performance increase between ENT and TNG.
In that sense, I could well accept the Jein ship as a qs-powered, warp 6 dash speed menace to the Earth/Coalition Starfleet...
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I wish I could recall how specific FASA was with the technological exchanges between the Klingons and Romulans. I think they mainly traded stock hulls, and mounted their own tech onto these, and I know the Klingons had some D-7s that had been modified to carry the Romulan plasma weapons but apparently were not very fond of them. And the Klingons were responsible for building larger versions of the basic BOP frame, which they weren't supposed to do.
That seems like a very plausible scenario, given what ENT suggests as far as Romulan technical achievements. It also has the benefit of still fitting with the infamous 'BoT' line...
That sounds pretty cool, and could go a long way to explain part of the tensions that led to the undoing of their little truce. I really wonder what the Romulans got out of it, unless they just lacked the resources to mass produce hull frames?
That's true - technically, canonically, all we know is that Starfleet intelligence reported the Romulans were now using Klingon design, per Spock. We don't know why. TMoST certainly says there was a treaty of alliance between the two empires, but TMoST says a lot of fun things that aren't strictly canon.
I'd have to go back and look at the Tactical Combat Simulator entries in more detail, but the impression I get from the original text in the FASA SRMs is that it was mainly part of the short alliance and was to bolster some elements of the Romulan fleet in case of war against the Federation. The Klingons donated about 170 D-7 hulls in return for Romulan cloaks and plasma weaponry, and most of these were refitted for Romulan service as the V-11 Vas'kalabam (Storm Bird) class. It seems neither side was entirely happy with the modified hulls, as the Klingons disliked the short range of the plasma weapons and many Romulans still considered the Klingons to be a rival and not a genuine ally. These vessels could thus be inferred to be the type seen in "The Enterprise Incident."
The original "Enterprise Incident" has three of the things operating as a unit; I really can't imagine the creators meant this to imply that they had all been captured. While this would be hard enough to believe of any other aliens, three ships of KLINGONS captured?! A tumultuous, impermanent alliance somewhat mirroring aspects of contemporary Sino-Russian relations seems the best fit.
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