Sigourney Weaver as Captain Janeway?

[exodus]

"Uppity" is a synonym of arrogant, presumptuous.

Scattered throughout the Voyager series (probably after the first couple of seasons), Janeway would take an air of arrogance or presumptuousness. Also, tending to make emotional outbursts, unfitting of a captain. I don't have Voyager episodes memorized, so I can't just point to evidence all throughout the series... but I know I've seen it. I think part of it is the difficulty of playing a woman in that role and still keeping it interesting. In the real world, commanding officers have to project a certain persona to get the job done, regardless of gender. I think Mulgrew wanted to give a more feminine character to her role... and it's understandable, because most people watching the show aren't in the military and wouldn't understand a realistic representation. But you have to be careful not to take things too far. I didn't like her portrayal in Equinox, and yet she was superb in "Year of Hell". Nobody pulls off a role perfectly. Mulgrew did some great work... but yeah, the "uppity" could have been toned down a bit.

"Uppity" seems to be a trait of those in Starfleet, except O'Brian as pointed out in "Hands of the Prophets" by his assistant. She told him he acted differently than other Starfleet officers, he didn't put on any aires. Picard & Riker were so blanant about it, you could honestly see them looking down their noses at other beings.

 

[brcarthey]

"Uppity" is a synonym of arrogant, presumptuous.

Scattered throughout the Voyager series (probably after the first couple of seasons), Janeway would take an air of arrogance or presumptuousness. Also, tending to make emotional outbursts, unfitting of a captain. I don't have Voyager episodes memorized, so I can't just point to evidence all throughout the series... but I know I've seen it. I think part of it is the difficulty of playing a woman in that role and still keeping it interesting. In the real world, commanding officers have to project a certain persona to get the job done, regardless of gender. I think Mulgrew wanted to give a more feminine character to her role... and it's understandable, because most people watching the show aren't in the military and wouldn't understand a realistic representation. But you have to be careful not to take things too far. I didn't like her portrayal in Equinox, and yet she was superb in "Year of Hell". Nobody pulls off a role perfectly. Mulgrew did some great work... but yeah, the "uppity" could have been toned down a bit.

"Uppity" seems to be a trait of those in Starfleet, except O'Brian as pointed out in "Hands of the Prophets" by his assistant. She told him he acted differently than other Starfleet officers, he didn't put on any aires. Picard & Riker were so blanant about it, you could honestly see them looking down their noses at other beings.

preach it my brutha from anotha mutha!!

 

[Praetor]

They should have said in "Caretaker" that Nick Locarno changed his name to Tom Paris when he joined the Maquis. Oooh, aaah...or something.

Oooh, me likey.

When joining the Maquis, Nick Locarno goes by the assumed name 'Tom Paris' to distance himself from his Starfleet legacy - Admiral Owen Locarno is his father and there were others before him. He then wishes to retain this name even after 'redeeming' himself on Voyager because he in some ways blames the pressure of the legacy for his previous failures. Reluctantly dealing with all of this could then have become an issue later when contact is re-establishe with Earth. Plus, they might have been able to get away with only paying the writer for the episodes in which the 'Locarno' name is actually mentioned, if they deveoped the character enough after 'The First Duty' to make it distinct.

B'Elanna also then has to decide whether she wants to be B'Elanna Paris or B'Elanna Locarno.

Otherwise, I'd have preferred another back-story. Something that retains the idea of a Starfleet 'legacy' misfit who was an even worse Maquis misfit but ends up a hero circumstantially on Voyager. Something more Han Solo-ish.

They could have named Tom Paris 'Tom Decker' (new backstory or not) and enjoyed all the mental instability that comes with it.

"RIGHT OUT OF HELL... I SAW IT!!!"

Willard Decker either had an unseen son or an unseen brother, take your pick. I'd prefer brother.

 

[kimc]

"Uppity" is a synonym of arrogant, presumptuous.

Scattered throughout the Voyager series (probably after the first couple of seasons), Janeway would take an air of arrogance or presumptuousness. Also, tending to make emotional outbursts, unfitting of a captain. I don't have Voyager episodes memorized, so I can't just point to evidence all throughout the series... but I know I've seen it. I think part of it is the difficulty of playing a woman in that role and still keeping it interesting. In the real world, commanding officers have to project a certain persona to get the job done, regardless of gender. I think Mulgrew wanted to give a more feminine character to her role... and it's understandable, because most people watching the show aren't in the military and wouldn't understand a realistic representation. But you have to be careful not to take things too far. I didn't like her portrayal in Equinox, and yet she was superb in "Year of Hell". Nobody pulls off a role perfectly. Mulgrew did some great work... but yeah, the "uppity" could have been toned down a bit.

"Uppity" seems to be a trait of those in Starfleet, except O'Brian as pointed out in "Hands of the Prophets" by his assistant. She told him he acted differently than other Starfleet officers, he didn't put on any aires. Picard & Riker were so blanant about it, you could honestly see them looking down their noses at other beings.

Exactly. Kirk, Picard and Sisko could all be described as "uppity" at one point or another. Funny, how when a woman behaves the same way it's "uppity".

 

[Praetor]

I think 'uneven' is a more fair word, and that's only because of the writing. FWIW, I think Kate Mulgrew helped give the inconsistent portrayal a kind of 'internal emotional consistency.'

 

[neogothboy74]

Well said. I agree.

 

[USS Renegade]

I also thought Kathleen Turner could have pulled it off.

are you kidding dude have you heard here voice? she's almost as bad as Dr.girlfriend from the VENTURE bros.

You are seriously demented. That voice is too sexy!

 

[USS Renegade]

Exactly. Kirk, Picard and Sisko could all be described as "uppity" at one point or another. Funny, how when a woman behaves the same way it's "uppity".

Has nothing to do with sexism... It's just that Kirk, Picard, and Sisko all had something to be uppity about.

Kirk, Picard, and Sisko were Federation heroes many times over... Janeway lost half her crew, got stranded across the galaxy, and only got home by cheating. In my opinion, making Janeway an admiral made sense. It got her the hell out of the Captain's chair in a politically correct manner.

 

[USS Renegade]

What I can't believe is that no one has said...


"There is no Janeway, only Zuul!"




Weaver would have been a bad ass Janeway.

 

[Praetor]

What I can't believe is that no one has said...

"There is no Janeway, only Zuul!"

Nice!

 

[JustKate]

^^

Because sometimes one smiley just isn't enough!

 

[The Academic]

Isn't this getting bizarrer and bizarrer every day?
What's next? Roseanne Barr as Captain Janeway? Meryl Streep as Captain Janeway? Rosie O'Donnel as as Captain Janeway?

 

[teya]

"Uppity" is a synonym of arrogant, presumptuous.

Scattered throughout the Voyager series (probably after the first couple of seasons), Janeway would take an air of arrogance or presumptuousness. Also, tending to make emotional outbursts, unfitting of a captain. I don't have Voyager episodes memorized, so I can't just point to evidence all throughout the series... but I know I've seen it. I think part of it is the difficulty of playing a woman in that role and still keeping it interesting. In the real world, commanding officers have to project a certain persona to get the job done, regardless of gender. I think Mulgrew wanted to give a more feminine character to her role... and it's understandable, because most people watching the show aren't in the military and wouldn't understand a realistic representation. But you have to be careful not to take things too far. I didn't like her portrayal in Equinox, and yet she was superb in "Year of Hell". Nobody pulls off a role perfectly. Mulgrew did some great work... but yeah, the "uppity" could have been toned down a bit.

"Uppity" seems to be a trait of those in Starfleet, except O'Brian as pointed out in "Hands of the Prophets" by his assistant. She told him he acted differently than other Starfleet officers, he didn't put on any aires. Picard & Riker were so blanant about it, you could honestly see them looking down their noses at other beings.

Exactly. Kirk, Picard and Sisko could all be described as "uppity" at one point or another. Funny, how when a woman behaves the same way it's "uppity".

Actually, if Sisko were described as "uppity," that would have very different implications.

 

[USS Renegade]

Isn't this getting bizarrer and bizarrer every day?
What's next? Roseanne Barr as Captain Janeway? Meryl Streep as Captain Janeway? Rosie O'Donnel as as Captain Janeway?

Holy crap! MARTHA STEWART as Captain Janeway!

 

[USS Renegade]

Actually, if Sisko were described as "uppity," that would have very different implications.

Well, he did hit me upside the head with a shovel...

 

[Praetor]

Isn't this getting bizarrer and bizarrer every day?
What's next? Roseanne Barr as Captain Janeway? Meryl Streep as Captain Janeway? Rosie O'Donnel as as Captain Janeway?

Holy crap! MARTHA STEWART as Captain Janeway!

"It's a good thing."