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Trek XI Enterprise speculation?

*prays* please dont be the same ship, please dont be the same ship, please dont be the same ship...

But, you see, it IS the same ship. It's the Constitution class U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701. Just like how those bumpy-headed Klingons in TMP were the same Klingons from TOS.

And now we have flat-headed rRomulans and Bumpy-Headed Romulans. Just when the Klingon explanation gets sorted out, we get the Romulans :devil:
 
Well technically someone could travel back in times with the blueprints for hte Defiant, build that instead and it would be called the Enterprise, that doesnt mean its the same ship :-P
 
The timelines will converge in the film's third act and the two ships Enterprise will encounter each other, whereupon nuKirk and nuSpock will mock the proportions, design principles, and general lack of apparent spaceworthiness of the old Enterprise before destroying it with a volley of turret-mounted phaser fire.
I like it. Can there be a double aria, like they had in Le Wrath di Khan?
 
The timelines will converge in the film's third act and the two ships Enterprise will encounter each other, whereupon nuKirk and nuSpock will mock the proportions, design principles, and general lack of apparent spaceworthiness of the old Enterprise before destroying it with a volley of turret-mounted phaser fire.
I like it. Can there be a double aria, like they had in Le Wrath di Khan?

It'd probably be more like this; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZrrP0cGsHg&feature=related
 
The timelines will converge in the film's third act and the two ships Enterprise will encounter each other, whereupon nuKirk and nuSpock will mock the proportions, design principles, and general lack of apparent spaceworthiness of the old Enterprise before destroying it with a volley of turret-mounted phaser fire.
I like it. Can there be a double aria, like they had in Le Wrath di Khan?

It'd probably be more like this; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZrrP0cGsHg&feature=related
:lol: Wow, that's awesome. Very nicely done and funny in some moments (especially the last seconds of the first part).
 
if nero is responsible for the altered enterprise maybe it's due to some tech he left behind during the first attack that they were able to back-engineer? they've certainly shown they can do that. also it seems that nero's attacks happen over the course of many years over different times. the enterprise was still being built even after the first attack happened. that's quite some time there. certainly gives them enough time to study some tech that's left behind or even just study scans made of his ship.

there's also the possibility the tech came from future spock, directly or indirectly.
 
The timelines will converge in the film's third act and the two ships Enterprise will encounter each other, whereupon nuKirk and nuSpock will mock the proportions, design principles, and general lack of apparent spaceworthiness of the old Enterprise before destroying it with a volley of turret-mounted phaser fire.
I like it. Can there be a double aria, like they had in Le Wrath di Khan?

Oh man, I see I have stayed away from these forums for too long. I didn't even know that one! That's so great! This should've been AT LEAST 30 minutes!
 
The timelines will converge in the film's third act and the two ships Enterprise will encounter each other, whereupon nuKirk and nuSpock will mock the proportions, design principles, and general lack of apparent spaceworthiness of the old Enterprise before destroying it with a volley of turret-mounted phaser fire.
I like it. Can there be a double aria, like they had in Le Wrath di Khan?

Oh man, I see I have stayed away from these forums for too long. I didn't even know that one! That's so great! This should've been AT LEAST 30 minutes!
That clip is actually just a few weeks old, if I'm not mistaken. But you're right, it really should be longer than just a few seconds. :D
 
It's the same ship, as far as I'm concerned. It just looks different. (Ever noticed how Robin Curtis looked nothing like Kirstie Alley, by the way?)

Of course that's just my take on it. We will know when we see it. :techman:
I totally agree on both counts: I agree that perhaps it just looks different to us -- the audience -- but is supposed to be the same. And I agree that we won't know that for sure until we see the film (or get more info).

I don't think they actually NEED to give us an in-film explanation for the difference in looks. I'm OK with just saying it's supposed to be the same look, but updated for a 2009 film. However, that's not to say that Abrams agrees with my personal views on that.

The Robin Curtis analogy is a great example.
 
It's the same ship, as far as I'm concerned. It just looks different. (Ever noticed how Robin Curtis looked nothing like Kirstie Alley, by the way?)

Of course that's just my take on it. We will know when we see it. :techman:
That was just her going through Vulco-Romulan puberty...
 
It's the same ship, as far as I'm concerned. It just looks different. (Ever noticed how Robin Curtis looked nothing like Kirstie Alley, by the way?)

Of course that's just my take on it. We will know when we see it. :techman:
I totally agree on both counts: I agree that perhaps it just looks different to us -- the audience -- but is supposed to be the same. And I agree that we won't know that for sure until we see the film (or get more info).

I don't think they actually NEED to give us an in-film explanation for the difference in looks.

Doubtless there will be a throwaway line, a narrative sop intended to placate the obsessives, which can be interpreted as an explanation but won't matter to the new viewers.
 
That bloated monstrosity will never be the Enterprise to me.

The best thing this movie can do is to take its altered timeline and just run with it, and never even attempt to reconcile itself with TOS.

And the best thing CBS could do is come up with a Captain April TV series, that adheres to, and builds upon, the established timeline, and takes full advantage of the fact that Star Trek is, and always has been, best suited for television.
 
I'm actually loving the fact that the new movie will pave the way for a new-looking enterprise, never to return to the 1960s TOS version - not because I dislike that design, just because I love the look of the JJprise, and can't wait to see it put through it's paces!

:)
 
I think the more changes the better, I can easily imagine 40 years of stories told from a new timeline where you occasionally have an episode or movie which jumps back to the original timeline we all know (similar to the occasional jumps to the mirror episode).

I can just imagine the cliffhangs with people wondering "omg are they going to restore the timeline!!!!!"... to be continued :-P
 
It's the same ship, as far as I'm concerned. It just looks different. (Ever noticed how Robin Curtis looked nothing like Kirstie Alley, by the way?)

Of course that's just my take on it. We will know when we see it. :techman:
That was just her going through Vulco-Romulan puberty...

Thats not a bad idea actually, the Romulan heritage giving her face a bit of a modification as it manifested. Problem solved. :lol:
 
I'm actually loving the fact that the new movie will pave the way for a new-looking enterprise, never to return to the 1960s TOS version - not because I dislike that design, just because I love the look of the JJprise, and can't wait to see it put through it's paces!

:)
Which means, essentially, that you're looking forward to a new show, with a new ship and a new crew. And that's just fine with me. I just want them to be honest about it. Different ship, different crew, all-new stories... I'm all for it. The main quibble is that we're being told it's "the same." The folks who love the new stuff and dislike the old stuff aren't really getting anything out of the bargain, calling it "the NCC-1701." It's a new ship, and as a new ship, it's fine. It's just not the old ship, so pretending it's the old ship isn't fine.
 
I can't wait for all the stunning beauty shots we're likely to get of the JJprise, ones that he's saving for the film itself, rather than the trailers.
 
I believe that one poster here who's seen substantial parts of the movie - carsondyle - has indicated either here or at www.therpf.com that there's a dearth of what fans think of as traditional beauty shots in this movie (for example, the slow three-quarters and profile shots that we're used to).
 
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