If Trek XI ends in the Nero-altered timeline, or if Spock is unable to completely undue the damage Nero has done, does this mean that TNG aliens can make an appearance in a sequel since cannon isn’t as much an issue? Enterprise got a lot of flack for the Ferengi and leftover Borg from FC making an appearance in the first and second seasons. According to Trek cannon, the Feds aren’t supposed to make first contact with the Ferengi until TNG. With the Nero-altered timeline, who knows?
If Trek XI ends in the new timeline?
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It's quite ''possible'' I'm getting the felling that the galaxy we all know from TREK ''PRIME'' will not be as big and vast in the ''NU-Timeline'' in the least it should prove ''Interasting''
Since Nero doesnt travel back before the ENN timeline as far as we know, only The Original Series onwards would be effected by the timeline, that said if you change anything from those timelines someone new could travel from new TOS, TNG, DS9 or VOY timeline even further back in time than Nero did for another reason and screw things up even more. But that would be a ripple effect and not directly caused by Nero himself.
Whatever changes are made can still be undone tho.. if the writers wish it.
EDIT: Please remember that timelines dont end unless someone like Q gets involved, they continue even if we don't know whats happening in them, if you make a change your creating a new timeline, like a train changing railroad tracks, the track it leaves doesnt just disappear and you can return to it with the right knowledge or blind dumb luck.
Whatever changes are made can still be undone tho.. if the writers wish it.
EDIT: Please remember that timelines dont end unless someone like Q gets involved, they continue even if we don't know whats happening in them, if you make a change your creating a new timeline, like a train changing railroad tracks, the track it leaves doesnt just disappear and you can return to it with the right knowledge or blind dumb luck.
^This is why I think this movie shuld be the ''last'' to envolve time-travel. It just gets too complecated and then ''EVERYTHING'' gets retconed, and then we have the TREK version of ''CRISIS ON INFINATE EARTHS'' ''CRISIS ON INFINATE TREKS'' Are we sure ''B&B'' aren't anywhere near this movie?
I don't think the possible sequels to this film would have the need to include TNG-era-only races. I think they will do just fine with existing TOS aliens, or create new ones (even if there wasn't a "new timeline").
As for Enterprise and the Ferengi...There's a lot to criticize when it comes to that TV series, but I think Enterprise is unfairly criticized for having Ferengi on the show. The Ferengi aliens' race were never identified, so no contunuity was compromised. If someone wants to criticize Enterprise for that, then they should criticize Deep Space Nine for the episode Little Green Men that showed humans having contact with the Ferengi in 1947. That situation was no different.
As for Enterprise and the Ferengi...There's a lot to criticize when it comes to that TV series, but I think Enterprise is unfairly criticized for having Ferengi on the show. The Ferengi aliens' race were never identified, so no contunuity was compromised. If someone wants to criticize Enterprise for that, then they should criticize Deep Space Nine for the episode Little Green Men that showed humans having contact with the Ferengi in 1947. That situation was no different.
True but I kind of expect old fashioned humans from Area 51 to lose records of that sort of thing, or put them into storage and forget about them over time. I expected Enterprise to be better than that. They had video footage of an alien species taking over a starfleet vessel and between Enterprise and The Next Generation all knowledge of their even existance was gone.
I wish the XI timeline changes would somehow explain why all that information just vanished to. You dont need to know a species name to identify it, they had DNA and video footage, everything they needed. Pressing my luck but maybe somehow XI will effect the timeline before it and explain it.
I wish the XI timeline changes would somehow explain why all that information just vanished to. You dont need to know a species name to identify it, they had DNA and video footage, everything they needed. Pressing my luck but maybe somehow XI will effect the timeline before it and explain it.
When you look at the new trailer, you already see members of many new alien species hanging around in the backround, even on the bridge of the nuEnterprise...
But perhaps it's just like in those Federation council scenes in the 1980s Star Trek movies - you've never seen most of the aliens there before and you've never seen them again. In this regard, Star Trek isn't Star Wars, where everybody with 0.26-second screentime gets a 7-page biography in the Wookiepedia...
Plenty of TOS species to choose from especially if the timeline changes. The Gorn could start a war with the Mugatu, the Tribbles could totally overrun the Klingon homeword and the Andorians and Tallerites could have tea parties together.
Well, of course the movie does wind up in the altered timeline.
Who knows, we may see Kirk versus the Borg before nuTrek also runs its course like the first version.
Who knows, we may see Kirk versus the Borg before nuTrek also runs its course like the first version.
Now ''THAT'' I would like to see! KIRK VS.THE BORG! Who will WIN!?
I really would pay money to see that! Of course, updated to today's sci-fi/horror standards...
However, there are also things we could do without... (sorry to let you down, miraclefan)
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AGGGGGH Please no!!!! I liked the first Crisis then it begat Final Crisis, Weekend Crisis, Ultimate Crisis and the Consolidated Crisis...AGHHHHHH please no!
The tribble idea is still a go tho right? :-P
Star Trek fans everywhere.
If it's anything like the scene from 'Alien vs. Predator' where the Aliens overrun the Predators defending the pseudo-Mayan pyramid, then yes!
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