Terminator-218 "Today is the Day" - Discuss/Grade <SPO>
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Hmmm...
Low internal body temperature... CHECK
Dogs hate him... CHECK
Eidetic Memory... CHECK
High pain threshold... CHECK
Low sleep requirements... CHECK
Combat training... CHECK
[knocks on door] "Sarah Connor?"
Or, is there a Jack, in the box
Bad-Ass Bauer. Can you imagine him confronting Cameron?
Jack: You! Drop the pidgeon! Drop it NOW!!
Cameron: There is a 51% chance that I won't kill it.
Hmmm...
Low internal body temperature... CHECK
Dogs hate him... CHECK
Eidetic Memory... CHECK
High pain threshold... CHECK
Low sleep requirements... CHECK
Combat training... CHECK
[knocks on door] "Sarah Connor?"
Yes, but do you sound like The Arnold?
No, but I look like the Owain Yeoman (Cromartie in the pilot)....or Terminator
you decide
Hmmm...
Low internal body temperature... CHECK
Dogs hate him... CHECK
Eidetic Memory... CHECK
High pain threshold... CHECK
Low sleep requirements... CHECK
Combat training... CHECK
[knocks on door] "Sarah Connor?"
Yes, but do you sound like The Arnold?
No, but I look like the Owain Yeoman (Cromartie in the pilot).
Well, if you can outplay Bobby Fischer or Boris Spasky, I'll really get worried!
MeanJoePhaser
Admiral
Is it any surprise that a military mission aboard a vessel called the Jimmy Carter goes bad? (That's not a knock against the former president per se; it's just his presidency was tainted by the failed rescue mission in Iran).
Or maybe it is Weaver and John Henry isn't Skynet. Or maybe it is Weaver and Future John Connor knows that his past attempts to destroy Skynet before the war (and before the creation of the Temporal Displacement Device), if successful, will create a temporal paradox that will wipe him from existence and thus realign the timeline such that Skynet wins.
Could weaver be a reprogrammed T1000? Sent back for an alternate mision by john conner
Sent to create a benevolent Skynet? One with a sense of morality that would be a partner and friend to humanity rather than an enemy? The creation of Skynet and the rise of artificial intelligence might be inevitable but if
it could be influenced not to nuke the world...
It'd be very hard to do. Each of the nanobots making up the mimetic polyalloy had their own processor that would have to be reprogrammed. I still think - if she wasn't sent my Skynet - she's a rogue.
Derek was going of a "different" mission, so I assume that he was going back in time shortly before Jesse left on the sub. Now, we know that Derek met Cameron before traveling back in time, and that she was there for a while, so it is unlikely that Cameron is in the box. Weaver being in the box would be interesting.
I am wondering if John knows the significance of the injuries to Riley's fingers and neck, that she was in a knock-down drag-out fight before being shot. If he does, then he'd know for sure that Cameron wasn't the killer, simply because, in hand-to-hand combat, Cameron would have ripped her apart and the gun would have been superfluous. And if Cameron had planned to shoot her, Cameron would have just shot her, without giving her a chance to fight back.
I am wondering if John knows the significance of the injuries to Riley's fingers and neck, that she was in a knock-down drag-out fight before being shot. If he does, then he'd know for sure that Cameron wasn't the killer, simply because, in hand-to-hand combat, Cameron would have ripped her apart and the gun would have been superfluous. And if Cameron had planned to shoot her, Cameron would have just shot her, without giving her a chance to fight back.
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^ It would be nice if someone in TVland was that clever.
Most enjoyable. I'm thinking Captain Terminator has gone bad, thus forming Jesse's dislike of the reprogrammed Terminators - she seemed perfectly fine with them in this episode.
And it never occurred to me Weaver could be in the box. I want it to be her so much. Wouldn't be in her Weaver form presumably, but man that'd be awesome.
Most enjoyable. I'm thinking Captain Terminator has gone bad, thus forming Jesse's dislike of the reprogrammed Terminators - she seemed perfectly fine with them in this episode.
And it never occurred to me Weaver could be in the box. I want it to be her so much. Wouldn't be in her Weaver form presumably, but man that'd be awesome.
Tony Soprano came in.
Good points on Cameron not being on the box - I also suspect it's Weaver in "Pandora's box". "Hell came out of it" would be an apt description, and I can so see her having a message for John Connor.
On the second paragraph, I suspect that the whole point of that scene (aren't those morgues secured better than this anyway!?) is to show John looking at Riley's wounds. I think there is very little doubt he will realise she fought a human, before she got shot, and he will believe Cameron even if he doesn't trust her anymore for different reasons.
It was an excellent episode. I liked it that they even connected to what happened in "Self made man", as Sarah clearly noticed Cameron is sneaking out at night (the cuts and bruises she mentioned likely were from her fight with Stark). I was surprised that Sarah had such a frank talk with Cameron; it's been a while since they really talked to one another.
I also liked it that John kept defending Cameron, even as he was clearly moved by Riley's dead. It's a big contrast to the more extreme Jameron shippers on the FOX board (who wanted nothing better than for Cameron to kill Riley, followed by John going at it with Cameron), and also to the generally unsympathetic, mean, hypocrite and cruel characters that now populate BSG.
Cameron was super creepy in her conversation with John, while posing as Riley. I wonder the same thing as John: what the hell was she trying to accomplish there? Surely she didn't think John would like her imitating Riley's voice to himself?
The "Jimmy Carter" wasn't chosen at random as the sub; it has special equipment to be able to unload special forces, so it could do more or less clandestine operations in the same vein as what happened in the episode. The rubber-skin Terminator was creepy, and apparently even non-skinned Terminators have been captured by the resistance (if they, indeed, do work for the resistance, which remains to be seen).
Derek seemed to immediately suspect Jesse. I wonder if he still does suspect her, in spite of what he said "the cyborg killed an innocent girl in cold blood".
I thought it was a good episode today. didnt realise it was a two parter until the end though.
One thing that made me wonder, when Sarah was burning the endo-skeletons and telling Cameron how she had contemplated waiting with Derek's sniper rifle to shoot her. She cant really believe one bullet from such a weapon would do anything to a Terminator can she?
One thing that made me wonder, when Sarah was burning the endo-skeletons and telling Cameron how she had contemplated waiting with Derek's sniper rifle to shoot her. She cant really believe one bullet from such a weapon would do anything to a Terminator can she?
