It seems like he'll still be defined in terms of his relationship to Janeway instead of evolving as a character in his own right.
Can't wait for this book. I have to get both Spirit Walk books first of course and then read this. I prefere it that way, so I can know some more of the new crew first.
Can't wait for this book. I have to get both Spirit Walk books first of course and then read this. I prefere it that way, so I can know some more of the new crew first.
if you don't have "homecoming" and "farther shore" you'll need those as well b/c the non-series characters are set up there. in reading all four books, it felt more like the books were written as a quadrilogy even the first two books were one adventure and the last two books were another adventure.
i don't want to color your perception of them but, be warned in that they got very mixed reviews. however, i thought for the most part they were decent.
I've been looking forward to Full Circle, but for some reason that preview turned me off a tad. The thought of Chakotay pining over Janeway all those years makes him look like a putz, IMO. It seems like he'll still be defined in terms of his relationship to Janeway instead of evolving as a character in his own right. I'll still read the book (I've had it pre-ordered for some time), but I'm not looking forward to it as much as I once was. I sure hope my assumptions are wrong.
True. Like I said in my earlier post, I hope my assumptions are wrong.It seems like he'll still be defined in terms of his relationship to Janeway instead of evolving as a character in his own right.
That's a lot to assume on the basis of only one scene. "Emissary" focused heavily on Ben Sisko's relationship to his wife, but his whole character over the course of the series wasn't defined solely by that relationship. A single case never proves a larger pattern.
Can't wait for this book. I have to get both Spirit Walk books first of course and then read this. I prefere it that way, so I can know some more of the new crew first.
if you don't have "homecoming" and "farther shore" you'll need those as well b/c the non-series characters are set up there.
^Any chance we can get the whole Prologue posted up somewhere or at least the rest of that mid-sentence break?
I've been looking forward to Full Circle, but for some reason that preview turned me off a tad. The thought of Chakotay pining over Janeway all those years makes him look like a putz, IMO. It seems like he'll still be defined in terms of his relationship to Janeway instead of evolving as a character in his own right. I'll still read the book (I've had it pre-ordered for some time), but I'm not looking forward to it as much as I once was. I sure hope my assumptions are wrong.
True. Like I said in my earlier post, I hope my assumptions are wrong.It seems like he'll still be defined in terms of his relationship to Janeway instead of evolving as a character in his own right.
That's a lot to assume on the basis of only one scene. "Emissary" focused heavily on Ben Sisko's relationship to his wife, but his whole character over the course of the series wasn't defined solely by that relationship. A single case never proves a larger pattern.
i agree with most of what you said, but i always thought they put the J/C debate to rest with the "resolutions" episode. i've read that jeri taylor really pushed the P/T romance, but not so much the J/C romance. IMO, i believe her battle with braga to bring the P/T romance to fruition was part of the reason she left. braga, it's been said, wanted a P/7 romance but didn't get it. he eventually got it with the trip/t'pol pairing though. but, that's why he was on record as saying the P/T pairing was barely touched upon during the 5th and 6th seasons.I've been looking forward to Full Circle, but for some reason that preview turned me off a tad. The thought of Chakotay pining over Janeway all those years makes him look like a putz, IMO. It seems like he'll still be defined in terms of his relationship to Janeway instead of evolving as a character in his own right. I'll still read the book (I've had it pre-ordered for some time), but I'm not looking forward to it as much as I once was. I sure hope my assumptions are wrong.
I understand where you're coming from, but, to be honest, Chakotay looked like a putz, period. He was never really "defined" to begin with. Throughout the series, his character never truly evolved, and the lousy handling of the J/C aspect was only one part of the issue. However, in regards to that issue, the original plan was to put Janeway and Chakotay together, but after Jeri Taylor left, it was dropped. The original "will they/won't they" J/C moments created a buttload of fans, who were subsequently ticked-off by both the innattention the writers paid the pairing, and that stupid C/7 nonsense.
It left things in limbo. At least it looks like FC will finally address the issue and resolve it once and for all. I'm really hoping this is an opportunity for Chakotay to finally start moving forward.
On a personal note, I get rather tired of constant fan complaints, fights, and wars over romantic entanglements. Ultimately, I think there are more interesting things in 'Trek then who's sleeping with who.
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