Was Ethan secretly fired?

[Guy Gardener]

Janeway's childhood hero Amelia Earhart, Chakotay's Sky People, Kim's real family (Not really, but he thought they were on the level. Gebil boy.), B'Elanna's Boyfriend from the Academy, The third ever assimilated human being, Riely the Borg's lot, Klingons looking for Miral Paris because of a hundred year old prophecy... Other stuff.

A conplete confluence of conincidence.

 

[2 of 10]

I don't know how and why they decided to ditch Neelix three episodes from the end but it was so incredible stupid. The guy had always stated that he would remain loyal to captain Janeway, that he wanted to go to Earth with the rest of the crew and he called himself "morele officer". Then suddenly they run into a bunch of Talaxians of all people on a remote asteroid so incredible far away from Talaxian space (and the Talaxian spaceships weren't comparable to Voyager in speed and anything else either) and suddenly Neelix decides to tsay with them. How incredible silly!

I'v seen similar posts, it was pretty lame the way that they happen to find some Talaxians living inside of an asteroid, which is inside a asteriod field that is being blown asteroid by asteroid for resources, since this ep took place only three ep's from the final, it would mean that the Talaxians got as far as Voyager, which is about 46,028 LY's from Talax, and still had time to construct an city inside of that asteroid, one would have though that in all the years it must have took them to get to the asteroid, they must have passed by a few Class-M Planets that they could have colonized. Also the species that Voyager drove off, I'm sure as soon as Voyager left the area they would have gone right back to blowing up the field, leaving the Talaxians with few options, did they have any space craft left besides Neelix's, pretty stupid to strand yourself inside of an asteroid field, all in all a pretty weak ep...

 

[Lynx]

I thought we were talking about Neelix, not Kes.

We are talking about Neelix but also about all the main characters in this case. Or to be more precisely, to keep them in the series for upcoming stories, books, movies and so on.

As I see it, Voyager had excellent characters. So why not use them instead of dumping them. Keeping Neelix in the series would make him useful in the Voyager books as well.

Lots of fans see Neelix as the Jar Jar Binks of Trekdom. Due to that, there is no profit to be made off of him going forward in books or otherwise. Keeping him for such things is pointless regardless of the minority that likes him.

Being a main character doesn't make you immune to cast changes. Several modern shows change main cast members all the time and have proven to be successful. Besides if you truly believed Voyager had excellent characters, you would have kept watching instead of turning it off after Kes left. The show still had 8 other just as excellent characters left.

Neelix is a good character who could be of good use in the books as well.

Most of the modern shows who constantly changes characters are cancelled after three seasons or so. There are exceptions but they are few and they are mostly based on character change as one of the main premises of the show.

My decision to quit Voyager after "The Gift" had nothing to do with the excellent 8 characters left, it was because of certain narrow-minded writers and producers still left in he show and a stupid decision they made.

And don't forget that I actually did give Voyager a second chance by starting watching it again, a decision which may have had something to do with the 8 remaining excellent main characters. However, the only thing I got from that was "Fury". So much for giving it a second chance.

 

[Lynx]

I don't know how and why they decided to ditch Neelix three episodes from the end but it was so incredible stupid. The guy had always stated that he would remain loyal to captain Janeway, that he wanted to go to Earth with the rest of the crew and he called himself "morele officer". Then suddenly they run into a bunch of Talaxians of all people on a remote asteroid so incredible far away from Talaxian space (and the Talaxian spaceships weren't comparable to Voyager in speed and anything else either) and suddenly Neelix decides to tsay with them. How incredible silly!

I'v seen similar posts, it was pretty lame the way that they happen to find some Talaxians living inside of an asteroid, which is inside a asteriod field that is being blown asteroid by asteroid for resources, since this ep took place only three ep's from the final, it would mean that the Talaxians got as far as Voyager, which is about 46,028 LY's from Talax, and still had time to construct an city inside of that asteroid, one would have though that in all the years it must have took them to get to the asteroid, they must have passed by a few Class-M Planets that they could have colonized. Also the species that Voyager drove off, I'm sure as soon as Voyager left the area they would have gone right back to blowing up the field, leaving the Talaxians with few options, did they have any space craft left besides Neelix's, pretty stupid to strand yourself inside of an asteroid field, all in all a pretty weak ep...

I agree with this. The whole plot was incredible weak.

 

[Tachyon]

Neelix should have come on Earth and shock all the poor earthlings who thought Dominion War was bad.

Just kidding. I actually like Neelix. He had his moments.

 

[RoJoHen]

Janeway's childhood hero Amelia Earhart, Chakotay's Sky People, Kim's real family (Not really, but he thought they were on the level. Gebil boy.), B'Elanna's Boyfriend from the Academy, The third ever assimilated human being, Riely the Borg's lot, Klingons looking for Miral Paris because of a hundred year old prophecy... Other stuff.

A conplete confluence of conincidence.

La la la, I can't hear you!

 

[Jeri]

"Did you see a coincidence? I didn't see a coincidence. Did you see a coincidence?"

 

[exodus]

We are talking about Neelix but also about all the main characters in this case. Or to be more precisely, to keep them in the series for upcoming stories, books, movies and so on.

As I see it, Voyager had excellent characters. So why not use them instead of dumping them. Keeping Neelix in the series would make him useful in the Voyager books as well.

Lots of fans see Neelix as the Jar Jar Binks of Trekdom. Due to that, there is no profit to be made off of him going forward in books or otherwise. Keeping him for such things is pointless regardless of the minority that likes him.

Being a main character doesn't make you immune to cast changes. Several modern shows change main cast members all the time and have proven to be successful. Besides if you truly believed Voyager had excellent characters, you would have kept watching instead of turning it off after Kes left. The show still had 8 other just as excellent characters left.

Neelix is a good character who could be of good use in the books as well.

Most of the modern shows who constantly changes characters are cancelled after three seasons or so. There are exceptions but they are few and they are mostly based on character change as one of the main premises of the show.

My decision to quit Voyager after "The Gift" had nothing to do with the excellent 8 characters left, it was because of certain narrow-minded writers and producers still left in he show and a stupid decision they made.

And don't forget that I actually did give Voyager a second chance by starting watching it again, a decision which may have had something to do with the 8 remaining excellent main characters. However, the only thing I got from that was "Fury". So much for giving it a second chance.

HOUSE, Law & Order & Law & Order CI, CIS, Angel, ER, Smallville and several other shows have many cast changes and have continued to successful runs well beyond 3 seasons.

As I said, despite the 8 of remaining characters, the only one you watched it for was Kes as you've implied twice within your own reply. So it stands to reason that your opinion is bias because any part of the series without her wasn't good enough for you, making your opinion on this topic null & void. If "Fury" was the last straw for you, then you never got as far as this ep.

 

[exodus]

I wonder why they did decide to write him out early, really? If he stayed with the crew that long, why suddenly have him find some Talaxians to hang with?

What doesn't make any sense to me is how Talaxians got so far from Talaxia in the first place. It seemed just a little too convenient.

So are replicators & tri-corders but we still accept them without question, why should this be any different? Can anybody here explain exactly how a tri-corder actually works?

It a fictional TV show, not everything has to be made factual.

 

[kimc]

I wonder why they did decide to write him out early, really? If he stayed with the crew that long, why suddenly have him find some Talaxians to hang with?

What doesn't make any sense to me is how Talaxians got so far from Talaxia in the first place. It seemed just a little too convenient.

So are replicators & tri-corders but we still accept them without question, why should this be any different? Can anybody here explain exactly how a tri-corder actually works?

It a fictional TV show, not everything has to be made factual.

That's a straw man argument. Thanks but no thanks!

 

[Lynx]

Lots of fans see Neelix as the Jar Jar Binks of Trekdom. Due to that, there is no profit to be made off of him going forward in books or otherwise. Keeping him for such things is pointless regardless of the minority that likes him.

Being a main character doesn't make you immune to cast changes. Several modern shows change main cast members all the time and have proven to be successful. Besides if you truly believed Voyager had excellent characters, you would have kept watching instead of turning it off after Kes left. The show still had 8 other just as excellent characters left.

Neelix is a good character who could be of good use in the books as well.

Most of the modern shows who constantly changes characters are cancelled after three seasons or so. There are exceptions but they are few and they are mostly based on character change as one of the main premises of the show.

My decision to quit Voyager after "The Gift" had nothing to do with the excellent 8 characters left, it was because of certain narrow-minded writers and producers still left in he show and a stupid decision they made.

And don't forget that I actually did give Voyager a second chance by starting watching it again, a decision which may have had something to do with the 8 remaining excellent main characters. However, the only thing I got from that was "Fury". So much for giving it a second chance.

HOUSE, Law & Order & Law & Order CI, CIS, Angel, ER, Smallville and several other shows have many cast changes and have continued to successful runs well beyond 3 seasons.

As I said, despite the 8 of remaining characters, the only one you watched it for was Kes as you've implied twice within your own reply. So it stands to reason that your opinion is bias because any part of the series without her wasn't good enough for you, making your opinion on this topic null & void. If "Fury" was the last straw for you, then you never got as far as this ep.

Some of those shows are on their last run due to decreasing interest which may have something to do with constant changes in the line-up, other are surviving because constant changes are a part of the premise for the show.

No, I never got as far as "Homestead" but I only have to read the comments about it to know that I would have disliked it anyway. It was ridiculous to dump Neelix three episodes from the end and the plot was thin and unrealistic.

My opinion about the dumping and destruction of Kes and my opinion about the season 4-7 episodes overall has nothing to do with my opinion of the weak plot in "Homestead" and the decision to dump Neelix.

 

[exodus]

Neelix is a good character who could be of good use in the books as well.

Most of the modern shows who constantly changes characters are cancelled after three seasons or so. There are exceptions but they are few and they are mostly based on character change as one of the main premises of the show.

My decision to quit Voyager after "The Gift" had nothing to do with the excellent 8 characters left, it was because of certain narrow-minded writers and producers still left in he show and a stupid decision they made.

And don't forget that I actually did give Voyager a second chance by starting watching it again, a decision which may have had something to do with the 8 remaining excellent main characters. However, the only thing I got from that was "Fury". So much for giving it a second chance.

HOUSE, Law & Order & Law & Order CI, CIS, Angel, ER, Smallville and several other shows have many cast changes and have continued to successful runs well beyond 3 seasons.

As I said, despite the 8 of remaining characters, the only one you watched it for was Kes as you've implied twice within your own reply. So it stands to reason that your opinion is bias because any part of the series without her wasn't good enough for you, making your opinion on this topic null & void. If "Fury" was the last straw for you, then you never got as far as this ep.

Some of those shows are on their last run due to decreasing interest which may have something to do with constant changes in the line-up, other are surviving because constant changes are a part of the premise for the show.

No, I never got as far as "Homestead" but I only have to read the comments about it to know that I would have disliked it anyway. It was ridiculous to dump Neelix three episodes from the end and the plot was thin and unrealistic.

Like I said, you're making judgement calls about something you've never seen or given a fair shot.

Besides Angel & Smallville, all those shows are in the Top 10 as far as ratings. "ER" is the only show on it's last run because the show is ending, not cancelled but ending. I'm really not sure where your facts are coming from but they don't coincide with the network Neilson ratings.

 

[Praetor]

Janeway's childhood hero Amelia Earhart, Chakotay's Sky People, Kim's real family (Not really, but he thought they were on the level. Gebil boy.), B'Elanna's Boyfriend from the Academy, The third ever assimilated human being, Riely the Borg's lot, Klingons looking for Miral Paris because of a hundred year old prophecy... Other stuff.

A conplete confluence of conincidence.

Seven. Was. Right.

It IS all a conspiracy!!!

 

[Jeri]

We need the Doctor to run a diagnostic on our alcoves and find out we've absorbed more coincidences than we can process. Then Janeway can beam to the Delta Flyer and use her own version of past events to convince us that our synaptic patterns are in chaos. Then we'll all agree to a nice nap in sick bay while we get our nails done.