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The Prayer Cross

IndyJones

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Has anyone here seen the commerical for the Lord's Prayer Cross? It's a necklace that enables you to read the Lord's Prayer when held in front of a light.

It's a nice enough looking cross, certainly appealing to look at.

My question is this: Why would anyone want the Lord's prayer on it? I'm assuming that anyone who chooses to buy this for themself will already know the prayer, and taking the necklace off and squinting so the prayer can be read would be unnecessary.

What say you?
 
Probably just as a curiosity or conversation piece. I think I've seen stuff like that before. I have a vague memory of something in the old Johnson-Smith catalogs when I was a kid of the Lord's Prayer printed on... something tiny. I can't quite remember. Maybe somebody else remembers....
 
Sounds like a Wiccan tradition to me. Inscribing incantations onto items of personal value to bestow them with power from which the practitioner can draw energy.
 
I used to own a grain of rice with my name written on it. I don't know why, and I certainly didn't need to read it to remember what my name was.

What would be better is if this cross projected the Lord's Prayer onto the wall.
 
I carry a microfiche of the King James Bibleat 250X reduction. The whole thing is about 1-1/2 inches square. I actually still have a portable reader that can make it readable (barely). Funny thing is, I don't read the KJ version at all any more. NRSV makes a LOY more sense.
 
^^ Maybe that's what I'm thinking of. I'm going to have to try tracking down one of those old catalogs. They were full of cool science things that we could never afford in those days.
 
I'm reminded of a bit in one of Asimov's books where Seldon compresses the psychohistory equations into a little tiny cube that can project itself onto the wall.
 
Sounds like a Wiccan tradition to me. Inscribing incantations onto items of personal value to bestow them with power from which the practitioner can draw energy.

It doesn't come from bestowing a personal item with power, the tradition was to bless it and sanctify it for protection.
 
Sounds like another way to make money, if you ask me. It couldn't possibly be for anything that makes sense in a practical or useful way.

Religion = Money Grab.
 
Sounds like a Wiccan tradition to me. Inscribing incantations onto items of personal value to bestow them with power from which the practitioner can draw energy.

It doesn't come from bestowing a personal item with power, the tradition was to bless it and sanctify it for protection.

Which isn't functionally very different. It's just like saying the rosary over and over in Catholicism. Such things amount to medieval superstitious nonsense. Thank God for the Reformation.
 
It's funny how they constantly steal stuff from Wicca and other "pagan" traditions while simultaneously decrying them as invalid (at best) and spiritually corrupting (at worst).

They've been doing it for 2000 years, so I'm not really surprised.
 
Sounds like a Wiccan tradition to me. Inscribing incantations onto items of personal value to bestow them with power from which the practitioner can draw energy.

It doesn't come from bestowing a personal item with power, the tradition was to bless it and sanctify it for protection.

Which isn't functionally very different. It's just like saying the rosary over and over in Catholicism. Such things amount to medieval superstitious nonsense. Thank God for the Reformation.

I don't see the big deal with it, it's just a big prayer, why does it bother Protestants so much?

It's funny how they constantly steal stuff from Wicca and other "pagan" traditions while simultaneously decrying them as invalid (at best) and spiritually corrupting (at worst).



They've been doing it for 2000 years, so I'm not really surprised.
Eh, it happens. Can it be proven that Muslims and Jews didn't do it for thousands of years for Wiccans, Pagans and Druids? Or that Wiccan, Pagan and Druid converts not bring the tradition with them?
 
Sounds like another way to make money, if you ask me. It couldn't possibly be for anything that makes sense in a practical or useful way.

Religion = Money Grab.

Hey, people can choose to believe in Christ and have everlasting life. Or they can believe in shady characters on tv and lose their $. Pretty simple.
 
I don't see the big deal with it, it's just a big prayer, why does it bother Protestants so much?
1. Rote prayers don't fit the biblical model for prayers. The only such prayers Scripture comes close to endorsing as "rote" are the Psalms.

2. Rote prayers have their roots in tradition. Tradition is not our rule of faith. In the case of the rosary, they are often aren't to God Himself.
"Protestant" prayers are to someone who can actually hear them, God.

3. The Lord's Prayer is not intended to be a rote prayer. It is a model prayer, an outline for the structuring of prayer. Even though the Lord's prayer is prayed by "Protestants" you won't generally see them saying that they prayed 500,000 Our Fathers in order to try to get God to do something."Protestant" prayers do not seek to be effective through vain repetition.

4. Praying the rosary has traditionally fostered a trust in the rosary itself, not God. Indeed, that fits the biblical pattern. That's why the serpent made by Moses was eventually destroyed.

5. The rosary was allegedly received by St. Dominic in1208 in a vision of the BVM. Protestants aren't followers of the BVM. Indeed, the Marian dogmas have their roots not in Christian Theology, but in Gnostic theology and have been condemned at least twice by two Popes, facts Roman Catholics today generally don't know or ignore. So, in fact, there is no such thing as a consensus of the Fathers with respect to the Marian dogmas, a direct violation not only of the Protestant rule of faith but the Catholic rule of faith as well.

So much for the rosary...

It really wouldn't hurt Roman Catholics (and the Orthodox) to actually do some basic biblical exegesis...religious symbols in the OT that were kept were eventually venerated of themselves, and the people were accused of prostituting themselves for such practices. That's idolatry, in case you need to have it spelled out. So, that's why Protestants find it bothersome. We don't merely find it "bothersome." Those of us who are consistent Protestants find it utterly repugnant. I'll gladly put that statement into the written record. It amounts to using prayer as "word magic." That's a direct violation of the Decalogue's command not to take God's name in vain, for that's what the commandment is referring to. Protestants often do, however, practice a form of word magic themselves by roting repeating the phrase "In Jesus Name, Amen." That's not functionally any different. The instruction to pray in Jesus' name is not an instruction to say a magic phrase at the end of a prayer, rather it means to pray in the character of Christ, in accordance with God's revealed will, etc. There is not one New Testament example of praying a rosary or saying phrases like "in Jesus' name" as part of our prayer lives. Such practices are nothing but superstition wrapped in Christian clothing.
 
I used to own a grain of rice with my name written on it. I don't know why, and I certainly didn't need to read it to remember what my name was.

What would be better is if this cross projected the Lord's Prayer onto the wall.

I'm still looking for a place that'll sell me a couple of Shroud of Turin beachtowels.
 
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