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Why didn't Mr. Scott hang out with the guys?

Mr. Scott

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Howdy!

In the Star Trek Universe, the Kirk/Spock/McCoy friendship was legendary. My favorite character of all the Star Trek is Mr. Scott, hence my name. Scott was a very friendly, jovial guy. He was someone who was very loyal but would never back down in a fight. McCoy to me was kind of stiff, a cranky grandfather who needed his meds.

I think maybe that Scott liked to be with his men in the engineering section and kind of did his own thing while on leave. He and his boys were probably in shore leave in some bar on Raisa cracking jokes about how much of an ass Kirk is. He only fought the Klingon in "The Trouble with Tribbles" because the :klingon: made fun of the ship, not of Kirk. So, I theorize he never tagged along was because he found Kirk boorish, McCoy was cranky and the Vulcan doesn't imbibe.

The only good part of Star Trek V was when the boys were out at Yosemite, drinking Jack Daniels around the campfire. I just wished they would of invited Scotty along. Of course Scotty would of passed out an hour before, with the rest of the guys drawing pictures on his lifeless body.

I was very sorry when James Doohan died, I have been to several conventions and have met Tekai and Koenig. Everyone has basically said that he was a good, kind man, basically about the same guy as Scotty.

Senor
 
Scotty prefers to catch up on the latest tech manuals in his off hours. When he takes shore leave fights ensue and people die ( See "The Trouble With Tribbles" and "Wolf In the Fold")
 
scotty was always my favorite. although i met him a couple of times at conventions and didnt care for him too much in real life.maybe he was having bad days. he seemed kinda standoffish and was quite an obnoxious wiseguy.i've talked to other trek fan's who met him that felt the same way.i liked the rest of the original crew much better when i met them. takai was the friendiliest though.
 
It's obvious why...

They'd go out, hit a few bars, have a few drinks, the night would flow. Then a hooker would end up dead, and there would be explanations, and controversy, Federation ambassadors would be called in, right havoc. Kirk would have to apologise, or the Enterprise would have to sneak out when no one was looking.

You couldn't take the guy anywhere.
 
I like to think that as a Scotsman (and so not very far off being Northern Irish ;)) Scotty would drink every one of them under the table. I reckon Bones would have given him a run for his money, but once they swapped from mint juleps to large glasses of scotch, Scotty would be on his own.

I also reckon he'd be out getting tanked with the engineering crew, they always seemed to be their own merry little gang down there (even if they spent most of their time getting vapourised or annihilated by hijackers).
 
Howdy!

In the Star Trek Universe, the Kirk/Spock/McCoy friendship was legendary. My favorite character of all the Star Trek is Mr. Scott, hence my name. Scott was a very friendly, jovial guy. He was someone who was very loyal but would never back down in a fight. McCoy to me was kind of stiff, a cranky grandfather who needed his meds.

I think maybe that Scott liked to be with his men in the engineering section and kind of did his own thing while on leave. He and his boys were probably in shore leave in some bar on Raisa cracking jokes about how much of an ass Kirk is. He only fought the Klingon in "The Trouble with Tribbles" because the :klingon: made fun of the ship, not of Kirk. So, I theorize he never tagged along was because he found Kirk boorish, McCoy was cranky and the Vulcan doesn't imbibe.

The only good part of Star Trek V was when the boys were out at Yosemite, drinking Jack Daniels around the campfire. I just wished they would of invited Scotty along. Of course Scotty would of passed out an hour before, with the rest of the guys drawing pictures on his lifeless body.

I was very sorry when James Doohan died, I have been to several conventions and have met Tekai and Koenig. Everyone has basically said that he was a good, kind man, basically about the same guy as Scotty.

Senor

I did a report on Scotland when I was in 6th grade because of my admiration for Scotty. He was great.

I don't know why you think the other guys could our drink him though. I just don't see it happenin'.

Scotty rules!
 
I think maybe that Scott liked to be with his men in the engineering section and kind of did his own thing while on leave. He and his boys were probably in shore leave in some bar on Raisa cracking jokes about how much of an ass Kirk is. He only fought the Klingon in "The Trouble with Tribbles" because the :klingon: made fun of the ship, not of Kirk. So, I theorize he never tagged along was because he found Kirk boorish, McCoy was cranky and the Vulcan doesn't imbibe.

That's possibly a little harsh. I never got the impression Scotty disliked Kirk, and as for McCoy's crankiness, that's part of his charm :lol:
 
Let's face it, compared to Mr. Scott, the others three were just lightweights. He'd just be hitting his second bar and second bottle while Kirk was getting some shuteye.
 
According to the good 'ol infallible The Making of Star Trek, Scotty and McCoy are supposed to be good friends/drinking buddies. Never saw it. Except maybe in "The Tholian Web", where McCoy, Scotty and Spock enjoy a glass of nerve gas together.
 
I always imagined that Scotty was a workaholic. He loved his engines too much to spend a lot of time away from them. Engineering was where he worked and where he preferred to hang-out. ('cept when drinking of course)

Not really a shore-leave kinda guy; hence the bad luck he was involved in the two times we actually were allowed to witness.

Though friendly and jovial, Scotty was an introvert, wholly.
 
In "Galileo 7", they almost developed a friendship between Scotty and Spock that I would have liked seen developed further but it was never picked on again.

The real reason was they were playing up the combative relationship between McCoy and Spock and Scotty would have seemed like a fifth wheel I guess, or forth wheel.
 
I like to think that as a Scotsman (and so not very far off being Northern Irish ;)) Scotty would drink every one of them under the table. I reckon Bones would have given him a run for his money, but once they swapped from mint juleps to large glasses of scotch, Scotty would be on his own.

I also reckon he'd be out getting tanked with the engineering crew, they always seemed to be their own merry little gang down there (even if they spent most of their time getting vapourised or annihilated by hijackers).
Well Bones is a McCoy. Must be some Celtic blood in there somewhere.
 
Scotty had a terrible problem with gas. He would fart all the time. That's why you always saw him by himself in his office above engineering, he was usually by himself when crisis after crisis needed to be solved. No one wanted to be behind him in that Jefferies tube. At least in TVH, he was able to use the "Klingon Food Packs" as an excuse for his "sour stomach," to which Kirk replied, "Oh that's what that was." It was a running gag with the Enterprise crew. His odor problem was legendary and only got worse as he put on more weight. That wasn't radiation that took the mains offline in TWOK. That was the beef stroganoff he had for lunch. It was so bad it killed Spock. Remember.
 
I recall reading an interview with George Clayton Johnson ("The Man Trap") where he states that he suggested to Roddenberry that Scotty not McCoy should be the captain's confidant.
 
Scotty's disappointment in not fitting in with the big three was nothing compared to his frustration over his inability to give them "the finger" to voice his anger.
 
Well, the real-life production reason was that James Doohan was a day player, not a series regular. Union rules prevented him from being onscreen too much and taking screen time away from the two series regulars, Nimoy and Kelly, and the series star, William Shatner. Now that seems odd to us today, since we're used to all the gang being the stars in the movies and to the much larger starring casts of TNG and its successors. But back in 1960's TV land, that's the way it was done.

In-universe, I suppose Scotty was pretty introverted, more comfortable around wiring diagrams and warp power formulae than hanging out with the guys. But that doesn't mean he was anti-social. We saw Scot on shore leave with Kirk and McCoy on Argelius, and let's be fair, what happened wasn't his fault at all. He was enjoying a drink with the boys on K-7, but the Klingons were doing their damnedest to provoke a fight (and there was liquor involved). And in the "Turnabout Intruder", Scotty knows something is seriously "up" with "Kirk" because in all the Starfleet service and off-duty carousing he's done with Kirk, he never saw the man red-faced with anger. That implies he must have spent some quality time with the Captain or else, what's he basing that on...

As for Doohan's personality, I've heard he was a pretty good guy, friendly et al, but I've also heard the opposite from people who have seen him later in life. One friend of mine saw him at a convention in Florida and was real disappointed, claiming that he seemed drunk. Let's all remember that he succumbed to Alzheimer's and I can tell you from my own experience with my Grandfather, who is about halfway through his Alzheimer's, that people so afflicted often do seem off their game and little "someplace else". Not to mention a little surly towards people they don't know, like fans at a convention...

Just a thought...
--Alex
 
The three actor credits in the introduction are always Shatner, Nimoy, and Kelly. Doohan not being a top billing character therefore never had enough air time to show much relationship development with Kirk, Spock, or McCoy.

McCoy is always extremely comfortable with Kirk... he can tongue lash him without batting an eye. Scotty on the other hand is always very subserviant to Kirk. I think there was only one or two times when he actually says "Jim" to Kirk. "Mirror, Mirror" was definitely one of them. Of the three, I think Scotty related most comfortably with McCoy. Maybe the writers thought bringing Scotty into the mix would diminish focus on the Kirk, Spock, McCoy trio?
 
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