Official Trailer Review & Comments Thread!! [Spoilers, of course]
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True, true.
I just hate the idea of not seeing it as soon as it's aired. Impatience, thy name is me.
Okay, try this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMTzoW0J1E8&fmt=22
And now we know why the Enterprise looks different and why it was built in Iowa. Starfleet Headquarters was destroyed before the ship was built. It's clear this United Federation of Planets isn't going to be a group of hand-holding cheerleaders; they're huddled and scared after an unstoppable warship (alright, an oil rig from the future) lays waste to all their feelings of security.
Very cool.
Very cool.
I dunno, I didn't see San Francisco destroyed in that trailer. People may be assuming too much.
I just saw it on TV. It looks good. I was a tad slow on the uptake because the previous commerical (I love those Clydesdales) had me saying "ahh!"
I'll bet that the Starfleet Academy sequence with the raybeam takes place later in the film, when Kirk is a student.
Curious ... I don't recall mentioning San Francisco. And while I'm sure one could argue that Starfleet Headquarters wasn't shown blowing up either, does anyone really think Nero flew all that way through time and space just to heat the water in San Francisco Bay? That beam wrecks Starfleet's base of operations at the very least. And if it's the same weapon that causes the huge earthquakes on Vulcan (vulcanquakes?), it very well might trigger devastation in San Francisco too.
Possibly, but I bet that this is when the Enterprise we know gets destroyed. That's why a different-looking Enterprise gets built in Iowa.
It doesn't look like the same device. In fact, nothing in the trailer establishes that it has anything to do with Nero's device. Probably has something to do with it, but exactly what is impossible to say from that shot.
Again, there's nothing in the trailer to indicate that anything about the Academy or San Francisco gets wrecked.
Both can't be true. The Enterprise being built in Iowa comes before Kirk is a student at the Academy.
I really doubt that there's going to be more than one Enterprise - one and only one will be built. This isn't "Babylon 5."
Agreed.
Again, there's nothing in the trailer to indicate that anything about the Academy or San Francisco gets wrecked.
Both can't be true. The Enterprise being built in Iowa comes before Kirk is a student at the Academy.
I really doubt that there's going to be more than one Enterprise - one and only one will be built. This isn't "Babylon 5."
I'm not sure about the sequence. Maybe Kirk gets into the Academy, only to be kicked out of the Academy and has to be talked back into it by Pike, and it's at this point that the attack happens? (But I'd prefer you were right.)
Alright, I'll show you the evidence. This is the same device as this with a bald Romulan (probably Nero) and Kirk fighting over Vulcan, taken from the first trailer. Although the second image is much closer to the platform, you'll note details from the second are visible on the first. Thus, these two stills from the trailers show the same device. Note the surface of Vulcan where the (drill beam?) impacts. It is logical, from the visual evidence shown to assume this beam causes widespread destruction. Considering the effects shown on Vulcan, it's reasonable to conclude the effects of firing it into San Francisco bay, an area that is prone to earthquakes, will cause at least similar destruction.
Looking back up the stalk connecting the platform to the Narada, you can dimly see the outline of the Cthuloid horror in which Nero rampages across time and space. Now go back to the first image. You'll see features of San Francisco Bay, including the Golden Gate Bridge and Angel Island. The beam fires, striking just east of the Golden Gate and into the bay. Back at the Academy, we see the beam hitting in roughly the same location shown from the platform. Note that cadets have had time to run and see what's going on. This implies the drill beam is stationary and not sweeping around, and that the full effects of the beam take time to manifest. If you refer back to the shot over Vulcan, you'll note the destruction also seems relatively fixed.
We now see that the device firing upon Earth is Nero's drill beam, and, left unchecked, that it is firing close enough to the acadamy and San Francisco to cause massive damage to both, if not wrecking them completely.
The original could easily have been under construction during the first attack. There wouldn't even be a need to show it, just dialog that references the loss of ships including the Enterprise. Or perhaps the attack on Earth happens before the original Enterprise is even built, but results in so much destruction that years go by before Starfleet is ready to build her. I share your doubt that we'll see the original ship anywhere. I also concede that the placement of this scene in the movie is entirely speculative. It just makes sense to me that it takes place early on in the film, before the scenes on Vulcan and possibly just after the destruction of the Kelvin.I really doubt that there's going to be more than one Enterprise - one and only one will be built. This isn't "Babylon 5."
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^If some of the rumors are true that...
Then it is nearly inconceivable that the drill attacked earth at the beginning because there would probably be no movie after that.
the drill destroys Vulcan
Remember also the news-helicopter footage taken in February 2008 while they were filming the drilling-platform scenes. Some stills of the same set can also be seen in this article from TrekMovie.com, and it's pretty clear that the item seen dangling over San Francisco Bay in the Super Bowl spot is the same (or of the same type) as the one from which we see Kirk dangling by his fingers and on which we see Sulu engaging in sword-fu with a rather large, bald (and presumably Romulan) opponent.
Man, my only complaint about that trailer was that it was too short. It looks to me like we're getting a pretty epic adventure set in a bunch of different places, and I'm immediately liking McCoy after his small bits of dialogue in both trailers. I also thought Kirk's line was pretty great.
I think this movie is going to rock out with its cock out.
I think this movie is going to rock out with its cock out.
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