Losing the Peace: Destroyed 1701-E?

[Brendan Moody]

Sure but that doesn't detract from the fact that the cover as presented is a really really poor hack job

Nor was it intended to detract from that debate- it was about other parts of the thread. If you thought I was defending the cover, I don't know why- I have no opinion on it, and didn't offer one.

nobody has even touched on the merits of the book, it's irrelevant to the discussion as it's developed

Yes, it is, which is why I never said anything about the merits of the book either. I replied to the person who said that the cover might be being reworked by saying that indeed it was, and mentioned that people, including the thread starter, who assumed the cover might be a literal image were mistaken.

 

[camefromhell]

Personally, I like the cover. It still needs to be tweaked a bit from this version, but I think it captures and conveys the post-disaster feel of Destiny's aftermath brilliantly.

Nice, but there is one big problem:

Sovereign class ships have the most modern Warp engines available to the federation and we have to assume that some of this technology is still secret. So Starfleet would never ever leave two only slightly damaged nacelles unguarded on some planet. Such things are guarded until someone has the time to salvage or destroy them (exactly as USAF did with the rests of the F/A-117 lost somewhere in Bosnia). And I'm quite sure that guarding such things is not done by a CO/XO or some ravers...

 

[Hartzilla2007]

Personally, I like the cover. It still needs to be tweaked a bit from this version, but I think it captures and conveys the post-disaster feel of Destiny's aftermath brilliantly.

Nice, but there is one big problem:

Sovereign class ships have the most modern Warp engines available to the federation and we have to assume that some of this technology is still secret. So Starfleet would never ever leave two only slightly damaged nacelles unguarded on some planet. Such things are guarded until someone has the time to salvage or destroy them (exactly as USAF did with the rests of the F/A-117 lost somewhere in Bosnia). And I'm quite sure that guarding such things is not done by a CO/XO or some ravers...

Hay these could be violent man-eating ravers that Picard got to guard the nacelles by giving them a redshirt to eat.

 

[Brendan Moody]

I don't know; I think Giant Picard and Giant Worf are scary enough that they could defend the wreckage all by themselves.

 

[camefromhell]

I don't know; I think Giant Picard and Giant Worf are scary enough that they could defend the wreckage all by themselves.

I see, they reversed the size changing process seen in the ds9 episode "one little ship" to make humans and klingons taller. So only a few guards per planet are enough. Nice idea!

 

[Brendan Moody]

(Missed this before.)

^ Yeah, but you rarely find anything funny, so I'm not really worried.

Not at all true; I find myself consistently hilarious.

I don't know; I think Giant Picard and Giant Worf are scary enough that they could defend the wreckage all by themselves.

I see, they reversed the size changing process seen in the ds9 episode "one little ship" to make humans and klingons taller. So only a few guards per planet are enough. Nice idea!

Yeah. In fact, I've heard the book's working title was One Big Klingon and One Big Terran, but somehow the editor didn't find it snappy enough.

(See? Hilarious.)

 

[William Leisner]

(Missed this before.)

^ Yeah, but you rarely find anything funny, so I'm not really worried.

Not at all true; I find myself consistently hilarious.

I don't know; I think Giant Picard and Giant Worf are scary enough that they could defend the wreckage all by themselves.

I see, they reversed the size changing process seen in the ds9 episode "one little ship" to make humans and klingons taller. So only a few guards per planet are enough. Nice idea!

Yeah. In fact, I've heard the book's working title was One Big Klingon and One Big Terran, but somehow the editor didn't find it snappy enough.

(See? Hilarious.)

Mr. Moody is right... he does find himself funny.

 

[Plecostomus]

Well judging by the cover there it seems the Automatic Anti-Deanna Troi Helm Control Lockouts can be bypassed after all. And from what I can see here on the cover Picard isn't too happy about it but Worf thinks it's a riot.

 

[camefromhell]

Yeah. In fact, I've heard the book's working title was One Big Klingon and One Big Terran, but somehow the editor didn't find it snappy enough.

Maybe they should consider "Honey, I Blew Up the Klingon!"

 

[Brendan Moody]

Mr. Moody is right... he does find himself funny.

If I weren't your author sycophant I'd have something to say about that, so I would.

 

[Plecostomus]

PICARD: I thought you said the Anti Deanna Troi Helm Control Lockouts couldn't be bypassed.
WORF: Actually that's why we crashed, She was the only one aboard qualified to pilot the ship but the controls wouldn't accept her commands.
PICARD: Hoisted on our own foolishness I see.
WORF: It seems so.
PICARD: Merde. Going to be a long walk back to Earth. One question though.
WORF: What's that?
PICARD: Why was she aboard anyway? Isn't she aboard the Titan?
WORF: Plot hole sir. It's like a wormhole but it only affects the story.
PICARD: Ah. Sort of like a Dues Ex Machina then.
WORF: Not quite that's the file directory where we store the plot-devices.

 

[David Mack]

Maybe they should consider "Honey, I Blew Up the Klingon!"

Naw, it's too close to the title of the upcoming Deanna Troi "autobiography" — Honey, I Blew the Klingon.

 

[Hartzilla2007]

PICARD: I thought you said the Anti Deanna Troi Helm Control Lockouts couldn't be bypassed.
WORF: Actually that's why we crashed, She was the only one aboard qualified to pilot the ship but the controls wouldn't accept her commands.
PICARD: Hoisted on our own foolishness I see.
WORF: It seems so.
PICARD: Merde. Going to be a long walk back to Earth. One question though.
WORF: What's that?
PICARD: Why was she aboard anyway? Isn't she aboard the Titan?
WORF: Plot hole sir. It's like a wormhole but it only affects the story.
PICARD: Ah. Sort of like a Dues Ex Machina then.
WORF: Not quite that's the file directory where we store the plot-devices.

 

[Trent Roman]

I think Picard wearing tight jeans makes sense: he did just become a father, and must now be discovering the 'joys' of late-night feedings. Thus... countermeasures.

Boy, that picture does not benefit from being blown up. Check out Worf's hands... normal on one side, sausages on the other.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman

 

[DimesDan]

Maybe they should consider "Honey, I Blew Up the Klingon!"

Naw, it's too close to the title of the upcoming Deanna Troi "autobiography" — Honey, I Blew the Klingon.

 

[Hartzilla2007]

I think Picard wearing tight jeans makes sense: he did just become a father, and must now be discovering the 'joys' of late-night feedings. Thus... countermeasures.

Boy, that picture does not benefit from being blown up. Check out Worf's hands... normal on one side, sausages on the other.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman

You know when I first found out the title of this book I though it was about Picard's experiences with his newborn kid.

 

[ronny]

Why is Captain Picard wearing a pair of jeans and a badly photoshopped jumper? and where's his com-badge?

and why is there a rave party to the left of worf - complete with some guy in a hat grooving along (although his girlfriend to the far left looks like she's leaving to get some party snacks.

Maybe they are celebrating Worf getting his 4th pip. And I think someone slipped Picard some viagra at the party...

 

[Mike Farley]

And I do appreciate that everyone is waiting patiently before pointing out that the book is also a really really poor hack job.

Damn, I almost forgot. This is the internet. I should rush off to Amazon and leave a negative review, huh?

And seriously... why is everyone who looks at this image so quickly drawn to Patrick Stewart's crotch??

I think "crotch awareness" is part of the deal with using Stewart's likeness.

 

[JoeZhang]

And I do appreciate that everyone is waiting patiently before pointing out that the book is also a really really poor hack job.

Ahem - takes deep breath



its prety clear to me that this is just another example of the worse hackjobs to come out of the star trek DEATHCAMP that are the books. Isn't it clear what's going on here? wolf appears to be bigger than Picard because the author wants to belittle patrick steward. Now I don't know what the writer has against Patrick Steward but I waved at him once when he got in a taxi and he's a sound bloke, sound. He would have spoke to me I'm sure if he'd notice me. Anyway, I digress - oh and the nacelles where to start with the nacelles - the writing on them is WRONG WRONG WRONG - it's a complete hack job - any fool nows that the font is different - so what does that tell us? that it's another mirror universe story - featuring the borg and haven't we had enough of them? (I heard they took over the universe - as you'd except from those hack writers). Now I haven't purchased a star trek novel since 1982 or indeed watched the show since that cartoon in the 1970s but I deserve to be heard.

 

[William Leisner]

its prety clear to me that this is just another example of the worse hackjobs to come out of the star trek DEATHCAMP that are the books. Isn't it clear what's going on here? wolf appears to be bigger than Picard because the author wants to belittle patrick steward. Now I don't know what the writer has against Patrick Steward but I waved at him once when he got in a taxi and he's a sound bloke, sound. He would have spoke to me I'm sure if he'd notice me. Anyway, I digress - oh and the nacelles where to start with the nacelles - the writing on them is WRONG WRONG WRONG - it's a complete hack job - any fool nows that the font is different - so what does that tell us? that it's another mirror universe story - featuring the borg and haven't we had enough of them? (I heard they took over the universe - as you'd except from those hack writers). Now I haven't purchased a star trek novel since 1982 or indeed watched the show since that cartoon in the 1970s but I deserve to be heard.

Thanks for that review. By the way... who is your favorite Trek character? *sharpens knife*