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Bailout the US media and papers?

Do the newspapers need a bailout?

  • Yes bail now

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • if we don't bailout Americans will be reading Pravda, LeMonde and watching BBC

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • significant media restructuring first

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Short term loan since thousands of jobs are at risk

    Votes: 2 13.3%
  • Times are tough give them a small bailout

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No! It threatens freedom of speach, Gov taxes will support Media Bias

    Votes: 3 20.0%
  • NEVER bailout

    Votes: 10 66.7%

  • Total voters
    15
  • Poll closed .
Bailout the media? You have to be kidding me.

Every industry out there smells government money dripping into the water and is circling ravenously, ready to sink their teeth into any fresh stimulus. Doesn't mean we need to throw taxpayers in to feed them.

There's always be a media; they just need to create a product that sells better. If anything, they should be doing well during a crisis, since people want more news and regular updates. Viewing figures & readerships always spike during wars, natural disasters, big court cases, etc, etc. Economic crisis should follow suit. And if the public don't buy news, they'll buy cheap escapist entertainment instead, which the media also provides.
 
Ah . . . no. The Internet doesn't have standards.
Neither do journalists as we found out with Dan Rather and the plagiarists over at the NYT.
Let's not forget Jayson Blair (disgraced NYT reporter).

And that guy Glass over at The New Republic. Trust me, I worked in the media, and know there are flawed people in it. But many have much more integrity than in some other professions. I also worked in financial services, and I wouldn't trust a broker with the time of day, let alone his rinvestment ecommendations. The people in that industry, which helped mess up our economy, are like Animal House meets Wall Street, with a little bit of Old School thrown in for good measure! -- RR
 
As long as the government's willing to bail out Target I'll be okay.

As often as you say you go to Target, i don't think that's necessary. ;)

If the print media goes under and all news moves to online, there will be millions of people with nothing to read in the bathroom.
 
Bailout the media? You have to be kidding me.

Every industry out there smells government money dripping into the water and is circling ravenously, ready to sink their teeth into any fresh stimulus. Doesn't mean we need to throw taxpayers in to feed them.

There's always be a media; they just need to create a product that sells better. If anything, they should be doing well during a crisis, since people want more news and regular updates. Viewing figures & readerships always spike during wars, natural disasters, big court cases, etc, etc. Economic crisis should follow suit. And if the public don't buy news, they'll buy cheap escapist entertainment instead, which the media also provides.

Holdfast,

Your last statement is unfortunately truer than you know. The consolidation of media has led to more dumbing down and escapist crap in the form of so-called "reality TV," for example. I can't stand that tripe, but the public eats it up, especially in these trying times. God forbid anyone should try to figure out why we're in Iraq or Afghanistan, or why oil prices are going up, when we can just watch Survivor to forget these trying times! Oh, heavy is the burden!

Red Ranger
 
Ah . . . no. The Internet doesn't have standards.
Neither do journalists as we found out with Dan Rather and the plagiarists over at the NYT.

And Fox News and Drudge. But please, ignore the raging inadequacies of your side.

But you're ignoring the ones on your side. Fox news was actually very balanced during the last election cycle according the PEW research.

http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1011/color-of-news-coverage

I hope the first installed black president does well for all our sakes.

And back on topic - I don't believe in any bailouts and certainly not for the media.
 
Neither do journalists as we found out with Dan Rather and the plagiarists over at the NYT.

And Fox News and Drudge. But please, ignore the raging inadequacies of your side.

But you're ignoring the ones on your side. Fox news was actually very balanced during the last election cycle according the PEW research.

http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1011/color-of-news-coverage

I hope the first installed black president does well for all our sakes.

And back on topic - I don't believe in any bailouts and certainly not for the media.

You're sure in love with that word "installed" aren't you? It was an election, not an installation. -- RR
 
As long as the government's willing to bail out Target I'll be okay.

As often as you say you go to Target, i don't think that's necessary. ;)

I had to go twice in one day last Saturday. :scream:

Just twice? I can see why you're crying. :lol:

As long as the government's willing to bail out Target I'll be okay.

As often as you say you go to Target, i don't think that's necessary. ;)

If the print media goes under and all news moves to online, there will be millions of people with nothing to read in the bathroom.

Bathroom breaks will be less fulfilling, then! :techman: -- RR

And much shorter as well.
 
I haven't bought a newspaper in over 5 years. I canceled the subscription to my Sunday paper because:

  1. The idiot carrier either wouldn't deliver the paper, or wouldn't put it in the paperbox
  2. I merely skimmed over it for the most part
Every day, I get all of the news I need from the InterWeb Thingy from multiple news sources, as do many, many more people.
 
BTW, I voted "Short-term loan." We need a healthy, thriving media.

Red Ranger
We already have one. It's called the internet.

You're joking, right?

All the Internet does is give people a means of reacting and responding to the mainstream media.

Or perhaps you can point me to a non-MSM website that explained the AIG scandle as well as the Washington Post recently did in their multi-day series. I'll be right here if you can find one.

Small White Car:

Good point. I noticed no one's taken you up on your challenge. What a, uh, surprise!

Red Ranger
 
I haven't bought a newspaper in over 5 years. I canceled the subscription to my Sunday paper because:

  1. The idiot carrier either wouldn't deliver the paper, or wouldn't put it in the paperbox
  2. I merely skimmed over it for the most part
Every day, I get all of the news I need from the InterWeb Thingy from multiple news sources, as do many, many more people.

I must reluctantly agree. I rarely buy the paper anymore, but I do have online subscriptions to The New York Times and The Wall Street Journal. However, if I'm someplace where I don't have Web access, I will buy a physical paper from time to time, simply because (a) I'm old school, and (b) I'm too cheap to buy a smart phone where I'd have Web access! ;) -- RR
 
As often as you say you go to Target, i don't think that's necessary. ;)

I had to go twice in one day last Saturday. :scream:

Just twice? I can see why you're crying. :lol:

As often as you say you go to Target, i don't think that's necessary. ;)

If the print media goes under and all news moves to online, there will be millions of people with nothing to read in the bathroom.

Bathroom breaks will be less fulfilling, then! :techman: -- RR

And much shorter as well.

Hooray for productivity! -- RR
 
Bailout the media? You have to be kidding me.

Every industry out there smells government money dripping into the water and is circling ravenously, ready to sink their teeth into any fresh stimulus. Doesn't mean we need to throw taxpayers in to feed them.

There's always be a media; they just need to create a product that sells better. If anything, they should be doing well during a crisis, since people want more news and regular updates. Viewing figures & readerships always spike during wars, natural disasters, big court cases, etc, etc. Economic crisis should follow suit. And if the public don't buy news, they'll buy cheap escapist entertainment instead, which the media also provides.

Holdfast,

Your last statement is unfortunately truer than you know. The consolidation of media has led to more dumbing down and escapist crap in the form of so-called "reality TV," for example. I can't stand that tripe, but the public eats it up, especially in these trying times. God forbid anyone should try to figure out why we're in Iraq or Afghanistan, or why oil prices are going up, when we can just watch Survivor to forget these trying times! Oh, heavy is the burden!

Red Ranger

It's not necessarily unhealthy, I don't think. There's only so much doom & gloom the public can take, and sometimes a little bread and circuses is just the ticket. It's the new opium of the masses, keeping tensions in check. ;)

Anyway, my basic point is that the media just needs to tune what it sells with what the public want. I think they'll want a bit of both news & fluff in these times, but in easily digestible bite-size portions. I don't think the government should have a role in subsidising the media while they figure it out though.


PS. do me a favour and ratchet back on all the double posting you're doing all over the board this evening please.
 
Neither do journalists as we found out with Dan Rather and the plagiarists over at the NYT.

And Fox News and Drudge. But please, ignore the raging inadequacies of your side.

But you're ignoring the ones on your side. Fox news was actually very balanced during the last election cycle according the PEW research.

http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1011/color-of-news-coverage

I hope the first installed black president does well for all our sakes.

And back on topic - I don't believe in any bailouts and certainly not for the media.

You keep saying "installed". I don't think that word means what you think it means.
 
And Fox News and Drudge. But please, ignore the raging inadequacies of your side.

But you're ignoring the ones on your side. Fox news was actually very balanced during the last election cycle according the PEW research.

http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1011/color-of-news-coverage

I hope the first installed black president does well for all our sakes.

And back on topic - I don't believe in any bailouts and certainly not for the media.

You keep saying "installed". I don't think that word means what you think it means.

I know. It's irritating me to no end, also. But then again, the other side of the aisle isn't too good with things like words and math. -- RR
 
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