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SG-A – Vegas (5x19) – (Discuss – Grade | SPOILERS!)

Grade VEGAS

  • 3 ZPMs

    Votes: 30 37.0%
  • Good

    Votes: 26 32.1%
  • Average

    Votes: 9 11.1%
  • Bad

    Votes: 10 12.3%
  • Poor

    Votes: 3 3.7%
  • Gate Malfunction - Utter Annihilation

    Votes: 3 3.7%

  • Total voters
    81
Have you linked the concept of a gay Shepard with the statements given in this link?

It speaks of gay subplots that did not make into the actual series. Further, it elaborates about a major character that was gay. Maybe this episode was a very subtle indication this person was John Shepard?
 
John Shepard, the leading man whose behavior can only be described by McKay as "Kirking?" If so, he's a VERY closeted gay man.
 
There are always possibilities. Although our Sheppard would be so far back in the closet, he could see Narnia, but this one? Not out of the realms of belief.

I'm glad they didn't run with it, though. Nothing makes such a thing scream of tokenism more than making a deal out of it. Just use a different pronoun, go on, and treat it like any other character.
 
Gave it a Bad/below average, didn't enjoy this episode much. Found it kind of boring and lame.
 
What's all this gay talk? I deleted the episode because it kind of sucked (though not as bad as most of this season) but McKay said her when describing the rescued medic. I rewound it twice. This show wouldn't be so bold as to make their main character gay. This isn't Torchwood.

I thought it was okay but like someone above, I had just watched Before I Sleep and another S1 episode and it reminded me that this show used to deal with real human emotions and that the Wraith were badass and not putting on contact lenses and trying to gamble their way to world domination.

None of the AU stuff made sense. Why was Woolsey a police captain? Why was Keller a coroner? Why did McKay and Zelenka still work for SGU? Why couldn't Teyla and Ronon have been written into the story? Why is this the penultimate episode?

I'm not a fan of CSI because I find it too stylish for it's own good but I do know that this felt like a tepid parody/homage visually. They still didn't quite get it right. We needed more ECU shots of the actors because CSI is told in tight close ups. The story made no sense until McKay literally sat us down and explained the plot.

Re: Shep's death wish. He's usually always off on suicide missions due to the lack of an alternative plan. Here he's just cavaliar as he rushes in and dies as part of an airstrike. That's not heroic, just stupid.
 
None of the AU stuff made sense. Why was Woolsey a police captain? Why was Keller a coroner? Why did McKay and Zelenka still work for SGU? Why couldn't Teyla and Ronon have been written into the story? Why is this the penultimate episode?

I was under the impression they were part of the Stargate program and were only posing to help cover up the wraith's role in the murders.
 
What's all this gay talk? I deleted the episode because it kind of sucked (though not as bad as most of this season) but McKay said her when describing the rescued medic. I rewound it twice. This show wouldn't be so bold as to make their main character gay. This isn't Torchwood.

You're right, thinking I missed something I went back and listened to that scene several times and McKay definitely says that Sheppard "knew her personally" when talking about the medic.

None of the AU stuff made sense. Why was Woolsey a police captain? Why was Keller a coroner? Why did McKay and Zelenka still work for SGU? Why couldn't Teyla and Ronon have been written into the story? Why is this the penultimate episode?

I was under the impression they were part of the Stargate program and were only posing to help cover up the wraith's role in the murders.


Indeed, Woolsey, Keller were both working for the Stargate Program in this universe but posed as a coroner and an FBI agent in order to find out where the police investigation was at and aid in the cover up McKay told Sheppard was going to happen.
 
I see. That must have been when McKay was explaining everything, a scene that fought for and lost my attention.

Teyla and Ronon still couldve been in this episode. When are they going to learn that ensemble casts draw different fan favorites? She problem with Voyager and Enterprise.
 
She was wearing so much eye makeup, she looked like a raccoon. Is that what the female characters in CSI look like?

Yes.

Flanigan should know, actually - he's been in CSI Miami.

So it was okay then that hero Shep was heterosexual and the murderous cash taking inept loser Shep was homosexual? I suppose any mention for a special interest group is good press.

AFAIK, alt-Sheppard's supposed homosexuality was fan speculation and thus not worth drawing any conclusions about. There was certainly nothing in the episode to confirm or deny it.

I see. That must have been when McKay was explaining everything, a scene that fought for and lost my attention.

In one scene, Walter appears wearing his usual SGC uniform.
 
He can't be homosexual, he's captain Kirk.

Ah, but how many times has he actually had sex with a woman on this series? Ever? (Geeze, I can't actually recall when it might have happened.)

He's been living a lie all this time! It must have been agonizing having to go on missions with that gorgeous hunk, Ronan, and never being able to tell him how he truly felt...

Or dya think Rodney was more his type?

Nothing makes such a thing scream of tokenism more than making a deal out of it.
Or shoehorning it in at the last minute. :D I would have had a lot more respect for this notion if Gay Shep had been introduced in the first season, and not immediately killed off, so that there would at least be some possibility of him meeting (Probably) Straight Shep, so that Shep being gay would actually have the slightest degree of bearing on the "real" plotline, without which, yeah, it is tokenism.
I deleted the episode because it kind of sucked (though not as bad as most of this season) but McKay said her when describing the rescued medic.
That's weird because I heard it as "he." I wasn't going to mention it because I wasn't quite sure, but then I saw others here heard it the same way. :D

In which case, my original complaint still stands: in any reality, Shep would have rescued someone who was just a fellow warrior and colleague. There was no reason for the romantic angle at all.
 
^Sheppard can't have sex on the show, all his fans would be jealous and start a hate campaign against the poor actress they cast in the role.
 
^Sheppard can't have sex on the show, all his fans would be jealous and start a hate campaign against the poor actress they cast in the role.

Unless it's Larrin, then it's funny. :rommie:

He had sex with some alien princess once, right? Oh well, looks like Alt-Gay-Shep is dead, along with SG:A.
 
Unless it's Larrin, then it's funny. :rommie:

Nah, I'm not running a hate campaign against Jill Wagner. In fact, I'd like Sheppard more if he did sleep with her... and didn't call her.

He had sex with some alien princess once, right? Oh well, looks like Alt-Gay-Shep is dead, along with SG:A.

Let's think. There was Chaya Sar from "Sanctuary", Teer from "Epiphany" and he was chasing around after that anonymous scientist girl in "Remnants". Of the three, I can only guess that he probably did the deed with Teer considering they were together for other six months while he was stuck.

Aside from that, all the closest he came (or, more accurately, didn't) was his regular tie and tease sessions with Larrin. He didn't even have to pay her.
 
Yeah, right after the dinner, the princess came to his room, disrobed, and threw him onto the bed. So, it's probably a safe bet that it happened.
 
Sheppard was also married to a woman BTW.

And his fans have a fundraiser next week to raise money to hire a hitman to "deal with" Kari Wuhrer.


You know you have a very twisted idea of what Shep fangirls are like :lol:, outside of the shippers who can't cope with anything threatening their OTP Nancy was actually pretty well received. Apparently TPTB planned on bringing her back with an eye to rekindling their relationship but never got the chance.
 
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