When does Politically Correct become Politically Incorrect?
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Political Correctness is both an oxymoron and a from of Fascism. It should be condemned and consigned to the trash bin of history, just like every other form of Totalitarian Evil we've destroyed.
In fact, I make it a point to be as politically incorrect as possible. No jackass politician is going to tell me what I should think and feel.
In fact, I make it a point to be as politically incorrect as possible. No jackass politician is going to tell me what I should think and feel.
I agree with Captain Hyperbole, here. In fact, I heard that Hitler's whole beef with the Jews stemmed from being wished "Happy Holidays" at a Berlin department store. True story.
You do realise the 'political' bit of 'political correctness' has nothing to do with politicians, yes?
I don't like "Happy Holidays" as a greeting (seems very bland) and I wasn't sure we were officially supposed to say "Merry Christmas" at my job. So I simply said nothing, and if a customer said "Merry Christmas" or "Happy Hanukkah," said "You too!" right back.
Personally, I don't see why it should be offensive to wish someone a merry Christmas. I'm not going to get offended if someone wishes me a happy Hanukkah; like the quote I had in my Christmas avatar said, "The manner of giving is worth more than the gift," or the exact words of the greeting, in this case. It's the spirit in which it's said that counts.
Personally, I don't see why it should be offensive to wish someone a merry Christmas. I'm not going to get offended if someone wishes me a happy Hanukkah; like the quote I had in my Christmas avatar said, "The manner of giving is worth more than the gift," or the exact words of the greeting, in this case. It's the spirit in which it's said that counts.
It's more of the point that they aren't aloud to say it. And that was what this employee told me. They weren't aloud to use any religious or cultural greeting, only happy holidays. And personally I don't think that attitude is right.
Why? I'm confused by why this is such an important issue with people. It's a greeting - just like "Hello" instead of "Hi". I don't know about these days, but back in the day, my parents discouraged me from using any slang - 'hi' included. Many people still don't like the term 'hi'.
And, "Merry Christmas", whether you agree or not, is considered by many to be a 'religious' greeting. Probably not by non-religious people who celebrate Christmas as just a holiday, but by people of other religions who celebrate something that is not Christmas.
So, let's say you own a store and directly across the street is another store that sells the exact same thing. You've got 100 people to compete for business. Fifty of those people are either Christian, or not religious but celebrate Christmas as a non-religious holiday. The other 50 are some other religion (a variety of different religions) and celebrate something else.
It's only those 100 people and they have to buy either from you or the other guy.
Some of those 50 Christians and non-religious people shop at the other store.
Are you going to allow your employees to say whatever they want and possibly offend some of those people whom you depend on for income?
Or, are you going to tell your employees to keep it inclusive and acknowlege that not everyone celebrates Christmas?
But since when do 50 out of 100 people going to no celebrate Christmas, at least in the US?
And no one should be offended. It would like me being offended by someone telling me "live long and prosper". You shouldn't be offended by a happy holidays either. The thing I don't like about "Happy Holidays" is it is the PC, trying not to offend anyone, let's take religion out of our lives answer to the debate. And I just think that is not necessary..
And no one should be offended. It would like me being offended by someone telling me "live long and prosper". You shouldn't be offended by a happy holidays either. The thing I don't like about "Happy Holidays" is it is the PC, trying not to offend anyone, let's take religion out of our lives answer to the debate. And I just think that is not necessary..
I would encourage my employee's to respond with the same greeting they are given, but i wouldn't force them to say one thing and not another. For one thing I would see that as a restriction of the freedom of speech. And I know its not considered religious to many... like say........ ME! (might want to check my op for that one.) but it does have a religious background, and thats the reason some people are concerned about saying it.
Exactly.
How does it take religion out of anyone's life though? If anything it expands the greeting to include Christians, people of other religious backgrounds, and those who celebrate it purely as a secular holiday. It doesn't exclude Christians celebrating Christ's birth, it includes them as well as others.
Unfortunately, that inclusiveness and the acknowledgment of the beliefs of others seems to be the problem with a lot of Christians, who want to keep the holidays exclusively to themselves.
I said nothing of the sort but given your penchant for gross exaggeration I'm not surprised that you took it that way.
All I said is that no one should be bothered by being wished Happy Holidays because it also includes the Christian Christmas. The only people who get offended by it are those who are upset by the fact that you are also including those with other beliefs in the greeting.
It's a stupid non-issue to get upset about.
