Ghostbusters

[Trekker4747]

I LOVE the first movie (my all-time favorite, besides RoboCop and Airplane) and was watching some of the second one on Bravo last night, and I think I finally realized what was wrong with it.

It's Bill Murray.

In the first movie, he's vibrant, a smart ass, and he's basically the spokesperson for the Ghostbusters. In part two, he's just an asshole, he's not even IN the uniform or has a proton pack on for the most part, and he looks bored in every scene he's in. The Dana scenes seem thrown in there just to give Murray more screen time than the rest of the busters.

I thought I remembered reading that Bill Murray was reluctant to doing a sequel, and it's definitely obvious from his performance in this movie that he didn't want to do it.

Yeah, that's the vibe I always got.

The movie is also too "light" and goofy. It's fairly obvious they tried to "kidify" it because of the cartoon series but they forgot that the reason why kids were into it was probably BECAUSE of the more serious tone/nature of it even the cartoon was fairly "dark" its first few years.

And the Ghostbuster's rap. Ugh. Don't get me started on that.

And, seriously, why is the Ghost in the logo doing the "2"?!?!? UGH. I hated that when I was 10 and I first saw this movie.

... Christ. Am I and this movie THAT old?!

I dunno, with Murray and the tone GB2 just misses a certain "spark."

SW wet and clutching a towel is nice for the couple minutes we get it...

But overall I think the movie second movie just really misses the mark, big time.

As I said, what IF Oscar had really been the product of Vinz and Zull?

What if the movie DID take a darker tone, closer to the original, and was maybe Gozer's second try at returning or another phase of her/his plan to return?

What if the Ghostbusters didn't have to friggin get back in business, and the courtroom "mundane" bust pales greatly to the Sedgwick hotel scene.

GB2 is just flawed in many ways, it makes me sad thinking of what could've been.

It's pretty telling when any number of episodes of the friggin cartoon series (pulling from memory here) are better than a motion picture.

 

[Kryton]

Hey Vinz, would you like some coffee?

Would I?

Yes, Have some...

Yes, have some!

 

[Hober Mallow]

"So be good for goodness sake! WHOOOAAA, somebody's comin'..."

And the Ghostbuster's rap. Ugh. Don't get me started on that.

At least it wasn't this.

 

[Vanyel]

I liked both movies. My sister, niece, best friend and I all start cracking up whenever one of us says: "Why am I drippings with goo?"

or

"He is Vigo! You are like buzzing of flies to him."

or

"You know, Dana, there are many perks to being the mother of a living god."

All those lines were said by the same character. Interesting.

Anyway, the one thing that disappointed me about GB2 was that they didn't follow the set up given to them in GB1.

"Are you a god?"
"No."
"Then die!"
After being thrown back by lightening:
"Next time someone asks you if you are a god, say: Yes!"

I so wanted Vigo to ask that question.

Vigo: Are you a god?
Ray: Uh--Yes?

 

[Broccoli]

Anyway, the one thing that disappointed me about GB2 was that they didn't follow the set up given to them in GB1.

"Are you a god?"
"No."
"Then die!"
After being thrown back by lightening:
"Next time someone asks you if you are a god, say: Yes!"

I so wanted Vigo to ask that question.

Vigo: Are you a god?
Ray: Uh--Yes?

That would have been great, especially if Vigo attacked because Ray said yes.

 

[Trekker4747]

What about the idea of Dana's baby being connected to Zuul/Vinz?

 

[Broccoli]

What about the idea of Dana's baby being connected to Zuul/Vinz?

That would come off a little forced.

 

[Kryton]

That's like saying Count Viggo was actually Fred Thompson!

Oh wait...!

 

[Trekker4747]

What about the idea of Dana's baby being connected to Zuul/Vinz?

That would come off a little forced.

Well, my theory was that Zuul while inhabitating Dana and Vinz while inhabitating Louis their child would be a... "spirtual offspring" of them. So it at the very least would've been an interesting angle for them to go with.

 

[God Magnus]

Love the first movie and the animated series. One of my favorite scenes from the cartoon involved them being "in TV". I think they were wet or something and all they had to do was step off screen and come back in to go back to "normal" and be dry.

 

[Trekker4747]

Love the first movie and the animated series. One of my favorite scenes from the cartoon involved them being "in TV". I think they were wet or something and all they had to do was step off screen and come back in to go back to "normal" and be dry.

I remember that one! I think they were in some "cartoon dimension" if not somehow inside the containment unit or something,

Can't wait for my TRGB DVDs to get here!

 

[Data Holmes]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w91-GMc3j7I

 

[TheMasterOfOrion]

That's like saying Count Viggo was actually Fred Thompson!

Oh wait...!

damn, that resemblance is uncanny. I checked imdb it wasn't Fred but a "Wilhelm von Homburg"

 

[IDIC]

The game is suppose to take place 2 years after the events of the second movie when supernatural stuff and ghosts again start rising and you join the ghostbusters team as a new recruit.

 

[Evil_Kirkneivel]

Back to the OP for a moment to talk about why the first part of the film is better than the second part. The original script for GB was written by Dan Ackroyd, who is/was actually into all that paranormal stuff. So he lent credibility and 'fact' to the comedy. The script was re-written many times, but much of his original material remained. The first part of the film is thick with this material. The second part is more of a standard action film.

By the way, once upon a time I had a fantastic book about GB - it contained the annotated script. It was fascinating to see what was changed during filming. I lent it to someone and never saw it again.

Finally, I had a friend at the time named Vince, who my wife would always refer to as 'Vinz Glorthos'.

That's all.

 

[Reverend]

What about the idea of Dana's baby being connected to Zuul/Vinz?

That would come off a little forced.

Well, my theory was that Zuul while inhabitating Dana and Vinz while inhabitating Louis their child would be a... "spirtual offspring" of them. So it at the very least would've been an interesting angle for them to go with.

Except that the second film takes place 5 years after the first and Oscar was only a year or so old.

 

[Trekker4747]

That would come off a little forced.

Well, my theory was that Zuul while inhabitating Dana and Vinz while inhabitating Louis their child would be a... "spirtual offspring" of them. So it at the very least would've been an interesting angle for them to go with.

Except that the second film takes place 5 years after the first and Oscar was only a year or so old.

Well, then obviously it'd have to be changed to make Oscar a 5 year-old a time when his spirtual origins "came of age."

 

[Anwar]

I always wondered what would happen if Ray had said "yes" to a "Are you a God?" question. Most likely they'd end up blasted anyways for being a "threat".

 

[DigificWriter]

This thread is obviously about the Ghostbusters movie franchise and its spin-off material, but I wanted to ask people a question: does anybody remember the '80s cartoon series "Filmation's Ghostbusters"? I loved the series as a kid, and used to think that I was the only person in the world (besides my sister) who actually remembered that it existed, so I was curious to see if there were any others out there who were/are fans of it.

 

[Chris3123]

This thread is obviously about the Ghostbusters movie franchise and its spin-off material, but I wanted to ask people a question: does anybody remember the '80s cartoon series "Filmation's Ghostbusters"? I loved the series as a kid, and used to think that I was the only person in the world (besides my sister) who actually remembered that it existed, so I was curious to see if there were any others out there who were/are fans of it.

I remember it, but I'm not really a fan.