Would you blame humanity? (DESTINY SPOILERS)

[Hartzilla2007]

Personally I would blame the Caeliar and not because of what Sedin did causing the Borg to come into existance morally disgusting as it was, but because the Caeliar's stupidity in the present wasscrewing people over. Now I might have read this wrong but.

[ rant] What kind of morons leave a network of subspace tunnels just sitting around some where with out thinking, jee someone might accidently figureout how to use these things so we better close them. I mean they didn't even have the excuse of being stuck in the past they could have just waited until the disaster in 2268 and then closed the tunnels or at least they could have kept an eye on them so know whent around using them but no they didn't and by the time these jackasses close the damn things the Borg have already sent a shitload of ships through. And don't get me started about how these dunderheads forgot to mention to the Columbia crew that the tunnels were floodedwith radiation that kills organic life in an extremly painful way.[/ rant]

 

[FredH]

The Klingons didn't declare war or hold Earth or humanity responsible for V'ger or hold them responsible for the loss of three battlecruisers.

Well... Klingon/Federation relations did seem a bit more hair-trigger in the II-VI era than they had before, even if that's just a matter of what the movies chose to focus on. Maybe the Klingons did use the V'Ger Incident as an excuse to up the ante?

 

[rfmcdpei]

[ rant] What kind of morons leave a network of subspace tunnels just sitting around some where with out thinking, jee someone might accidently figureout how to use these things so we better close them. I mean they didn't even have the excuse of being stuck in the past they could have just waited until the disaster in 2268 and then closed the tunnels or at least they could have kept an eye on them so know whent around using them but no they didn't and by the time these jackasses close the damn things the Borg have already sent a shitload of ships through. And don't get me started about how these dunderheads forgot to mention to the Columbia crew that the tunnels were floodedwith radiation that kills organic life in an extremly painful way.[/ rant]

The Caeliar seem to haven't had any idea that the subspace tunnels existed. As for the hyperphasic radiation the Columbia had been warned not to go into the tunnels.

 

[Hartzilla2007]

[ rant] What kind of morons leave a network of subspace tunnels just sitting around some where with out thinking, jee someone might accidently figureout how to use these things so we better close them. I mean they didn't even have the excuse of being stuck in the past they could have just waited until the disaster in 2268 and then closed the tunnels or at least they could have kept an eye on them so know whent around using them but no they didn't and by the time these jackasses close the damn things the Borg have already sent a shitload of ships through. And don't get me started about how these dunderheads forgot to mention to the Columbia crew that the tunnels were floodedwith radiation that kills organic life in an extremly painful way.[/ rant]

The Caeliar seem to haven't had any idea that the subspace tunnels existed. As for the hyperphasic radiation the Columbia had been warned not to go into the tunnels.

Okay I reread the passage in Mere mortals so they didn't seem to realize the passages were still there though I'm still wondering how they missed that (yes I know they said the passages were dorment but you would think the Caeliar would take the time to come up with the tech to find dorment subspace tunnels considering the Federation could do it and Titan was able to detect ships using the passage ways before the Caeliar apparently could), but in the warning Columbia not to go in the passages thing it sounded like they were more interested in stoping Columbia from screwing up the timeline and had a brain fart on the whole flooded with lethal raidiation thing.

 

[Silversmok3]

[ rant] What kind of morons leave a network of subspace tunnels just sitting around some where with out thinking, jee someone might accidently figureout how to use these things so we better close them. I mean they didn't even have the excuse of being stuck in the past they could have just waited until the disaster in 2268 and then closed the tunnels or at least they could have kept an eye on them so know whent around using them but no they didn't and by the time these jackasses close the damn things the Borg have already sent a shitload of ships through. And don't get me started about how these dunderheads forgot to mention to the Columbia crew that the tunnels were floodedwith radiation that kills organic life in an extremly painful way.[/ rant]

The Caeliar seem to haven't had any idea that the subspace tunnels existed. As for the hyperphasic radiation the Columbia had been warned not to go into the tunnels.

Okay I reread the passage in Mere mortals so they didn't seem to realize the passages were still there though I'm still wondering how they missed that (yes I know they said the passages were dorment but you would think the Caeliar would take the time to come up with the tech to find dorment subspace tunnels considering the Federation could do it and Titan was able to detect ships using the passage ways before the Caeliar apparently could), but in the warning Columbia not to go in the passages thing it sounded like they were more interested in stoping Columbia from screwing up the timeline and had a brain fart on the whole flooded with lethal raidiation thing.

That warning was because the subspace tunnels were hazardous to the Caeliar themselves.Keep in mind it tossed several of their advanced cityships into random places and times in the past.

And its logical on their part to conclude that if the tunnels were unsafe for the Caeliar themselves,Columbia didn't stand a chance.

And really,if the ship made it to the end they'd be backwards in time in the Gamma Quadrant without warp drive.
Not much of a difference,except this way they die in deep space over decades on a ship without food replicators or FTL travel.

At least as written the crew get a proper memorial.