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Turning Vegetarian

why can't you eat them?

I don't know, I always have trouble. Everyone else seems to be able to eat them, and I never can, or at least, nothing close to how others eat them.

J.

Break them open in a bowl of water so all the seeds float to the top

This! Don't miss out on the deliciousness that is the pomegranate.

What you want to do is cut the top of the pomegranate off first, just a half inch or so. Then you want to make five cuts from top to bottom but not all the way through--just score it to get through the skin a bit. If you score it enough, you'll be able to break it off into six sections. From here I usually take a large bowl of cold water and submerge each section while I break off/peel the seeds out. The water actually makes the white part float to the top, and seeds stay on the bottom. It also keeps the fruit from splashing all over you which is problematic because it can easily stain. Once you're done with all the sections, you can scoop the seeds out.

It takes some time but it's totally worth it and less of a mess in the end.
 
:rolleyes: Yeah, I'm sure all the scrawny vegetarians look so unhealthy because they couldn't read for two minutes...

Yeah, cause this guy is really scrawny.

http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/?page=gallery1

I know scrawny people who eat shitty food and scrawny people who eat masses of meat. And I know scrawny people who could kick most people's asses. You keep coming back with conjecture and anecdotal evidence. Try coming back when you have some science.
 
[...]To each their own.
And if you don't care about religion, just leave it alone.[...]

Yes, and to be fair I only brought it up because someone had the brilliant idea to try to use reincarnation as a reason for not eating meat.
That may not have been meant to be taken literally. (As no religion is to be taken to the letter, but that's another debate.) It was probably meant to simply lean towards the notion of compassion for animals.

And I believe vegetarianism and reincarnation are closely related aspects of Hinduism. Which means that for many millions of people, this argument is not irrelevant.

Whether you believe or not in reincarnation, the point is to identify with animals. Which reminds me, aren't we animals too? Carnivorous animals, I grant you. If we can catch preys. If not, we can survive otherwise.

Since I'm going down that road, let's look at primates in general. Most of them are vegetarians, and a few species also eat meat, I believe.
I wonder if back up the ladder of evolution, more species of primates were omnivorous but gave up meat, because it was easier to pick than kill, and they were still sated and healthy. It might depend on the quality of vegetable food available.
Sorry, I'm not going to research that. At least, not now.

To be fair, if I remember my anthropology correctly (I am not an authority on the matter), I think that hunting and meat eating were motors of evolution for human beings. One of the main things that set us apart from other primates and, obviously, put us on top of the food chain.

But that was done already. I'm not sure that eating a lot of meat will give us bigger brains by now. It was mostly the hunting that made a difference, making us develop our brains - added to the energy gain provided by meat in a "survival of the fittest" situation, which is out of date.

Today, the clever thing to do is to have a balanced diet. And that can exclude meat. (I knew a teenager who would slightly ferment his own lentils to give them protein! That's dedicated.)

The fact that many vegetarians are "scrawny" (by your American standards) and "sickly-looking" according to you, might be a natural coincidence: someone who dislikes meat might be someone who dislikes eating a lot and neglects their diet.
Just like someone who reads a lot is likely to be someone who wears glasses. But that is not an absolute rule.
 
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I don't know, I always have trouble. Everyone else seems to be able to eat them, and I never can, or at least, nothing close to how others eat them.

J.

Break them open in a bowl of water so all the seeds float to the top

This! Don't miss out on the deliciousness that is the pomegranate.

What you want to do is cut the top of the pomegranate off first, just a half inch or so. Then you want to make five cuts from top to bottom but not all the way through--just score it to get through the skin a bit. If you score it enough, you'll be able to break it off into six sections. From here I usually take a large bowl of cold water and submerge each section while I break off/peel the seeds out. The water actually makes the white part float to the top, and seeds stay on the bottom. It also keeps the fruit from splashing all over you which is problematic because it can easily stain. Once you're done with all the sections, you can scoop the seeds out.

It takes some time but it's totally worth it and less of a mess in the end.

Will do!
Mmm... it's pomegranate time. :D


J.
 
Basically what I'm seeing is that unless you have a really elaborate plan to make up for something you could get from just eating one steak or one chicken wing, you could have some pretty serious deficiencies that could give you the hershey squirts or rickets, so have fun with that.

No, what that wiki even said was that a well balanced vegetarian diet has no trouble with that. Someone says 'I give up meat!' and then only eats fries and salads, they're going to be hosed. Someone says 'I give up meat!' and then eats nutritious foods, they are fine.

Dude, I did it for a while, and I'm the furthest from scrawny. 6'3 and 290 lbs, I've only really been off since October. Many Asian people eat vegetarian, or eat a tenth of the meat the average American eats, and they live longer and are generally healthier.

The thing you really got to be attentive on is if you go vegan. That is a hard road to follow.

Celestial Seasonings™ has several similar teas like that. They have Pomegranate Rooibos tea that is delicious.

J.
It is good. I used to make a large large pot of it, add a can of berry juice and chill. Best iced tea ever. For hot tea I love my looseleaf Mint Earl Gray from Teaopia.
 
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I understand the first one, pathetic as it is, but I don't see your point with the others. Are dogs and cats a part of your regular diet?
 
:rolleyes: Yeah, I'm sure all the scrawny vegetarians look so unhealthy because they couldn't read for two minutes...

Carl Lewis is a strict vegan. He had his best year as a track competitor the same year he gave up meat.

I'm not a vegetarian, but the notion that it's an unhealthy lifestyle is absolute bunk.

Anyone making the switch (as my gf recently did, eats fish but VERY rarely) should consider investing in the Moosewood Cookbook. She's made dozens of its dishes, I enjoyed 95% of them, and I am NOT a vegetable lover.
 
Mr. Shield I had a similar quandry, but then realised that since I never did like cooking the stuff at home, eliminating meat from my diet was basically down to making different choices when eating out.

I also support the idea of doing it in phases. Red meat was a cakewalk; six months later I stopped eating poultry. For a time I was completely vegetarian, but for a brief period went back to eating chicken, then cut it out and now I eat fish (I guess the term is piscetarian?).

In the UK we don't have the horrific practice of feedlots as they do in the States (the antibiotics and hormones required to make that work is why US beef products are banned for sale in the EU -- thankfully), but we still have battery hens which is an equally disgusting practice.

Any kind of intensive farming of livestock is something that should be opposed by anyone capable of empathy with their fellow living creatures; if your primary concern is animal welfare TS, then you can salve your conscience by getting free-range chicken when you buy chicken; never buy eggs unless they are also from free-range chickens. I'm sure the day is coming when battery-rearing of chickens in the EU will be banned, but it's not soon enough for me.

It's notworthy that MacDonald's in the UK has broken with policy in the USA and sources all of its chicken and eggs used from free-range farms (according to their literature anyway), so even big players are getting the message.
 
so why do you have a problem with vegetarians? ;)

Because they're silly, and a large percentage of the ones I've had personal experience with are hypocrites. It almost makes me want to eat more meat just thinking about them, because I know it would piss them off. :evil:
 
Yup. Numbers are meaningless that way - I also don't think much of organized religion. Just because a lot of people do something doesn't mean they are right. Even if the majority of people did something it doesn't mean they are right either.
 
Yup. Numbers are meaningless that way - I also don't think much of organized religion. Just because a lot of people do something doesn't mean they are right. Even if the majority of people did something it doesn't mean they are right either.

It never occurred to me to think of this issue being about right and wrong. Most vegetarians I know certainly don't present it as such. It's simply their diet preference and a way of life for them.
 
Maybe we should make this thread about Captain X's stupid vegetarian acquaintances with whom he has a beef (pun intended) and maybe we would end up understanding where that intolerance is really rooted.
 
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