Timeless Problem Question...

[2 of 10]

In "Timeless" why did Voyager have to try to land on the ice planet anyway. After Voy slipped out of the slip stream, they were out of control, which is understandable, however, why would trying to land help matters out. If Tom had enough control to actually land the ship, why would he not have had enough control to right the ship in space.

They had a lot of open and empty space in front of them, why could they not just ride it out, I am under the impression that eventually the ship would have been able to be brought under control before the structral intergrity would have failed, any thoughts ???

Resistance is Futile

 

[DGCatAniSiri]

It's been some time since I saw the episode, but I think what happened was that they emerged from the slipstream close enough to the planet and got caught in its gravity, and with their inertia, it sent them crashing into the planet.

At least, that's been my belief.

 

[JNG]

I haven't seen this in a while, but here's a bit from the Memory Alpha summary:

Tuvok reports extensive hull breaches; if they do not land immediately, they will be destroyed. Paris then reports a planet nearby, Class L, covered with snow and ice. Janeway orders him to land.

But they come in much too fast. Janeway orders full reverse thrusters, but this avails them naught. She orders all hands to brace for impact.

If inertial dampers or structural integrity fields were expected to fail shortly (battery backups counting down or something), getting the ship to rest on a planet makes sense, as she could destroy herself or endanger the crew through her own flight otherwise—especially if the nav deflector were in danger of failure as well, which seems possible as it had been reconfigured to a special-purpose setup while acting as part of the experimental drive.

 

[Plecostomus]

Ya know, this bugged me for years. But it does make sense that with the deflector offline bits and pieces of dust were shredding the ship, so best to find a place to set down and repair it.

Same with the systems coasting down, never thought of that.

This is actually one of my favorite Voyager episodes.

 

[Guy Gardener]

What exactly did Braxton do?

he cited "cleaning up" this adventure by "location" in Relativity.

Did he put the planet close enough to try to take relief leaving a wreck for Kim to salvage or did he cause the shipwide failures to frack everyone to death before thye did something truly horrible?

 

[JNG]

What exactly did Braxton do?

All that matters is that somewhere, somehow, sometime, he didn't come through for us.


EDIT: I really cracked myself up here.

 

[2 of 10]

Thanks for the replys, it now makes total sense to me that they had no other options but to land, I was under the impression that damage was not that bad when the fell out of the slip stream, however, I suppose when you fall out at such a high velocity, into normal space, bad things happen...

Resistance is Futile

 

[Lucy of Nine]

What exactly did Braxton do?

All that matters is that somewhere, somehow, sometime, he didn't come through for us.


EDIT: I really cracked myself up here.

You cracked me up too!

 

[jamestyler]

Thanks for the replys, it now makes total sense to me that they had no other options but to land, I was under the impression that damage was not that bad when the fell out of the slip stream, however, I suppose when you fall out at such a high velocity, into normal space, bad things happen...

Resistance is Futile

The good thing about Voyager though, is that no matter how badly damaged Voyager will get in any situation thing will be absolutely fine next week, if not by the end of an episode.

 

[Guy Gardener]

What exactly did Braxton do?

All that matters is that somewhere, somehow, sometime, he didn't come through for us.


EDIT: I really cracked myself up here.

I am a million pieces too.

Voyagers writers don't mind writing stories that CREATE inconsistencies that revise Voyagers history, then show us a present where everything is almost (exactly!!!) exactly the same, so that many of the video tapes I bought, never happened or only happened slightly bizarro differently if we are to believe that any "present locus focus" in their story telling is connected to any other story or matters. You understand that i am saying that if it is the destination that matters, and not the journey, that we never saw the journey.

In Relativity we were viewing the timeline where Braxton came through, but when did we start viewing this time line which branched off from the cluster fuck which Kim made during Timeless and not the expected continuity and aftermath from janeway being betrayed by a Junior officer who betrayed many oaths to Starfleet and general decency to arrest and retard the development of the entire universe and everyone in it?

Right after the week Timeless aired? Or up until the week before Relativity aired?

The same can be easily said for Before and After (With Year of Hell.), and Fury (With itself and especially Deadlock.).