HEROES 3x12 "Our Father" Discuss and Grade
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We'll see in any event the formula if it works properly can give Peter and Hiro their powers back.
I've been saying this for what, seven weeks now ? It won't.
The identities of the depowered characters are no coincidence. We've seen Arthur take powers from the following:
Adam Monroe - David Anders' contract was up so he was written out.
Maya - For whatever reason, the writers felt they had nowhere to go with her so she was written out.
Peter - "Too powerful". Limited imagination on the part of the writers meant that they'd written themselves in to a corner with him and so he's depowered.
Hiro - Can, effectively, solve any problem just by going back in time. Again, limited imagination on the part of the writers means that they can't come up with problems he can't fix with time travel.
Arthur is a solution to inconvenient problems created by lazy writing. Both Hiro and Peter will now get one-off, defensive or passive powers like the rest of the "good guys". No more absorbing powers for Peter and no more time travel for Hiro.
Well if they don't get their powers back via the forumla then since Arthur glowed when he died it's possible they got their powers back that way.
How do you know for certain Hiro didn't stay in the past and now his 16-years-older version can reveal himself to have been around all along.
Because Masi Oka doesn't want to have to turn up at 4am every day to have prosthetic makeup put on ?
Hiro still saw himself in the future seemingly get killed by Ando for his half of the formula, now unless that doesn't happen Hiro will still return to the present day somehow.
Not necessarily. The observer effect - the act of observing a phenomenon changes that phenomenon. In this case, the fact that Hiro, Ando and Peter knew what was going to happen has already changed the future they saw.
We know that it is indeed possible for their actions to change the future, otherwise, New York would be a smoking ruin and the entire planet would presently be in the midst of a massive Shanti virus outbreak.
Well if Peter and Hiro don't get their powers back on some level that future still could happen. So in some way the forumla either doesn't work properly or Peter destroys it in the next ep. preventing that future from happening.
The spoiler just means the writers are letting the current situation play out sufficiently to get the maximum dramatic impact. The multiple-plotlines format means nobody's story can move forward quickly. One or two big things per character per season is probably the right place. The wrong way to do it is like with Sylar this season: whiplash-inducing changes every frakkin episode!
All my quatloos are on Peter getting some kind of power back before the end of the season.
The spoiler just means the writers are letting the current situation play out sufficiently to get the maximum dramatic impact. The multiple-plotlines format means nobody's story can move forward quickly. One or two big things per character per season is probably the right place. The wrong way to do it is like with Sylar this season: whiplash-inducing changes every frakkin episode!
All of which is fine, but there's a specific spoiler here.
...becoming a paramedic suggests a going back to a normal life without powers story.
The end of the season is too long. Only the end of the chapter is acceptable.
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Peter's scar has to heal long enough to become "permanent," too.
We also know that he does, in fact, get his powers back because of the scar. Getting that exact scar could have only gone down one way -- people don't exactly go around with a massive scar down their face on a regular basis, afterall -- and we finally saw how that went down. Which pretty much means that if anything is to change the future in a signficant way, it still hasn't occurred.
Nathan's still going to end up president right now, the serum was created, its rarity now explains why not everyone had it in the future and instead why it was a huge commodity, Peter still has his scar, and Knox and the rest are still out there ready to knock some heads.
I take it back, so far only one thing seems to have changed and that's Sylar. But he's such a flip-floppy character anymore that it's impossible to tell if he's still unredeemed. We haven't seen a reason for him to befriend Noah to the point of naming his son after him (or, my personal theory, simply taking care of an age-regressed Noah via some other villain). Something massive had to trigger that and we just haven't seen it happen or even not happen yet.
All of that said, I'd prefer it greatly if they got rid of the time-traveling powers completely, but allowed Hiro to teleport and slow down/speed up time to a certain degree (ie, time can only either stops or go forward, it can't be reversed). It's a great power and he was beginning to use it somewhat well. It's the long-distance time traveling that's a real crutch for the show, not the immediate-in-use aspects of his power.
We also know that he does, in fact, get his powers back because of the scar. Getting that exact scar could have only gone down one way -- people don't exactly go around with a massive scar down their face on a regular basis, afterall -- and we finally saw how that went down. Which pretty much means that if anything is to change the future in a signficant way, it still hasn't occurred.
Nathan's still going to end up president right now, the serum was created, its rarity now explains why not everyone had it in the future and instead why it was a huge commodity, Peter still has his scar, and Knox and the rest are still out there ready to knock some heads.
I take it back, so far only one thing seems to have changed and that's Sylar. But he's such a flip-floppy character anymore that it's impossible to tell if he's still unredeemed. We haven't seen a reason for him to befriend Noah to the point of naming his son after him (or, my personal theory, simply taking care of an age-regressed Noah via some other villain). Something massive had to trigger that and we just haven't seen it happen or even not happen yet.
All of that said, I'd prefer it greatly if they got rid of the time-traveling powers completely, but allowed Hiro to teleport and slow down/speed up time to a certain degree (ie, time can only either stops or go forward, it can't be reversed). It's a great power and he was beginning to use it somewhat well. It's the long-distance time traveling that's a real crutch for the show, not the immediate-in-use aspects of his power.
I can't completely verify when this photo was taken, but it is apparently from green screen shooting for the next episode "Dual".
This is something of a spoiler. It won't take a genius to figure out what it means:
Photo here...
This is something of a spoiler. It won't take a genius to figure out what it means:
Photo here...
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