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Do you know your IQ?

You're talking about the difference between wisdom and knowledge.
I'm talking about being clever and astute in a practical way.

So, wisdom. ;)

David Weschler, the developer of the most commonly used modern IQ test, defined intelligence as, "The global capacity of a person to act purposefully, to think rationally, and to deal effectively with his/her environment."
 
Philo, you're too fast. I haven't finished reading your post.
You're talking about the difference between wisdom and knowledge. Most people equate intelligence with the latter (and our culture emphasizes it)
Well honestly, that confusion is particularly anglo-centric, since En. "intelligence" often means data. I have indeed noticed it countless times, in English-speaking contexts, that informed people were called intelligent for that reason. (One must admit it usually comes together.)

When I took the test, the psychologist who administered it allowed me the extra time to complete all of the tasks. He then compared the data between what I had done during the time limit and what I had done afterwards. This was done partly to demonstrate that I not only had ADD, but how it affected me academically.
And what's ADD? I have a hard time with American acronyms, however widespread.
 
I can't speak to any linguistic differences, but I think it's a pretty pervasive attitude in all of western society, at least. People equate smart with someone who's good at Jeopardy.
 
Encarta World Dictionary, Intelligence: 1. ability to think and learn: the ability to learn facts and skills and apply them, especially when this ability is highly developed.


Wisom: 1. good sense: the ability to make sensible decisions and judgments based on personal knowledge and experience.

or

3. accumulated learning: accumulated knowledge of life or of a sphere of activity that has been gained through experience.

So "IQ" is an attempt to put a measurement to the former...
which is our possible ability to gain the latter.
Again, whether that takes place or not is based on the individual.


Now hopefully it's understood and won't need to be explained again. :cool:
 
No. I had an IQ test when I was in elementary school, but the results weren't released to me.

I'm very skeptical when it comes to the IQ test, itself, for reasons stated elsewhere in this thread (the difficulty in measuring - heck, even defining - intelligence). Additionally, many of us present differently, neurobiologically - who's to say that easy pattern recognition is a sign of higher intelligence, or whether that same ability to recognize patterns can obscure thinking in a more abstract manner, and the ability to abstract is the true measure of intelligence?
 
I can't speak to any linguistic differences, but I think it's a pretty pervasive attitude in all of western society, at least. People equate smart with someone who's good at Jeopardy.

:lol:

I've also seen English majors throw their grammarian weight around, correcting the writing of physics majors in a very haughty manner...yet they have difficulty adding fractions. Who's to say who's smarter?

(and no, the answer isn't the English/Physics double major :lol: )
 
Yes, the criticism is that standard IQ tests don't take into account the theory of multiple intelligences. IQ tests tend to only represent linguistic, logical, and spatial intelligence. And, as you just said above, how can an IQ score give a proper reflection of even those three aspects if it's averaged out?

However, despite all of the deficiencies inherent in IQ tests, they do have their purpose, and can be useful in some respects. It's just important to be aware of how they work so you can better define that usefulness.

EDIT: One more thing. I don't think intelligence should be something that's measured on a single, strictly linear scale. Hopefully, in the future, intelligence tests will be developed to be more like personality classification systems. Ie. taking into account multiple aspects of intelligence, and then giving you a rating of ability on each one of those. Obviously, it could never be definitive, but from there you could build an idea of the character of someone's intelligence.
 
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I'm not sure what to make of IQ tests. I've never taken one, but I don't think I'd score too highly if I did - when it comes to exams, tests and similar things I am the King of Epic Fail. Too nervous and distracted with my brain racing in neutral at the speed of gibberish. What?!?. It makes sense to me. :D

I was always considered intelligent by teachers, friends and family, yet never expressed it academically no matter how hard I tried.

Where I am I going with this? Anyone? :D
 
I'm not sure what to make of IQ tests. I've never taken one, but I don't think I'd score too highly if I did - when it comes to exams, tests and similar things I am the King of Epic Fail. Too nervous and distracted with my brain racing in neutral at the speed of gibberish. What?!?. It makes sense to me. :D

I call it "emotional white noise." ;)
 
EDIT: One more thing. I don't think intelligence should be something that's measured on a single, strictly linear scale. Hopefully, in the future, intelligence tests will be developed to be more like personality classification systems. Ie. taking into account multiple aspects of intelligence, and then giving you a rating of ability on each one of those. Obviously, it could never be definitive, but from there you could build an idea of the character of someone's intelligence.

This makes a good deal of sense. :)
 
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