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Aftermath of Destiny (SPOILERS)

And again I see that if I don't agree then I haven't read something because everyone knows that this person is right and therefore I should have no opinion. Don't assume that just because I don't agree that it means that I have not read anything, and therefore don't know what I am talking about.

I know far more than you think and I don't accuse you of not reading or thinking just because I don't agree with you.

Brit

If you had read those books, then you would know that the novels certainly do not portray Cardassia as having recovered to the level you were complaining about.
 
Are we even 100% certain that the dominion still exists as such? We're still several years after the last DS9 novel, and the last time we saw the Founders and Dominion, things were a bit shaken up, y'know?


Of course it is... as the Federation hasn't crumbled to dust yet... :rommie: :p

But in reality, in some form, I suspect so... though given whats happened and what may happen in the DS9-R, they may have been unable to help in this case...
 
Who is the next Castellan after Alon Ghemor?

Sorry--have not been reading all of the novels as these days I pretty much stick to ones that are purely Cardassia-centered, and I've missed some of the little drips and drabs that show up elsewhere.
 
Please, no more big bads! After the Borg War, the Dominion War, the Genesis Wave, the Selevian War, and about fifty other galactic threats since the 2370s, its time we spent a little while in the pause, dealing with small, day-to-day crises like potential wars and psychotic doppelgangers.
 
From the back A Singular Destiny, it sounds it might be introducing us to some kind of a new big bad. I'm mainly referring to this part
Sonek Pran -- teacher, diplomat, and sometime advisor to the Federation President -- perceives a pattern in the seeming randomness. And as each new piece of evidence falls into place, a disturbing picture encompassing half the galaxy begins to take shape, revealing a challenge to the Federation and its allies utterly unlike anything the have faced before.
I'm just curious if it is a completely new threat, or if it's someone we already know taking advantage of the situation.

As for the political situation, I know alot of people were talking about war in some of the earlier threads, but I really think the opposite will be true. I'm really thinking that all of this could actually be enought to really start to bring the big powers together, I'm mainly thinking the Federation, Klingons, one of the Romulan governments, and I wouldn't be suprised if some of the other less powerfull races joined them too. But if only one of the Romulan governments allied with the Feds/Klingons/whoever what do you think the other would do?
 
Who could be the next big bad? Sphere Builders?

Well, I really shouldn't be telling you this... but it turns out there really are Soulless Minions of Orthodoxy, and... :evil:

And they're going to hound your work!!! :lol:
The Dominion wouldn't hurt a fly... :shifty:

Please, no more big bads! After the Borg War, the Dominion War, the Genesis Wave, the Selevian War, and about fifty other galactic threats since the 2370s, its time we spent a little while in the pause, dealing with small, day-to-day crises like potential wars and psychotic doppelgangers.

^ Well thats no fun!! Though I think there is some of that coming, in addition to some big bads!! I'll bring popcorn...
 
Advisor to the President? Hopefully that means that Nan Bacco will get some more 'screen time'.

I have to agree with David cgc, we've had a lot of End of the Universe/End of the Federation type stories going recently. As much as I have enjoyed them, I would like to see something else for awhile so that these BIGGER stories don't desensitize us to that type of thing.
 
If I had to write the next book, id make an end-of-the-Federation story , but the bad guys wouldnt be giant ships with giant guns,
but be believable, trusting charachters who use intrigue and deception within Starfleet to do what the Borg almost did by force.
 
While the reality is that they need to do stories about competition and conflict, they also need stories of renewal now, IMO. I don't think they should do any more apocalyptic tales for a while -- when they do stores of Federation conflict, the stakes ought to be lower.
 
To make a real-world comparison, I would say that the Cardassian Union as of 2381 might be compared to the Russian Federation in 2000 upon the ascension of Vladimir Putin: Not back on its feet yet, but on its way.

That's the problem with some novels and incomplete world building, I can't suspend my disbelief. Russia at least has citizens to build with, Cardassia lost over eight hundred million people, and all the allies in the universe can't overcome that deficit.

Saying what if is easy, coming up with a logical basis for what if is difficult.

EDIT: Thinking about Deep Space Nine, I guess they kind of already did this to some extent.

Brit

Listen, you haven't even read the damn things, so I'm not sure how you can just throw that out the window there -- or, for that matter, accuse them of incomplete world-building.

Read A Stitch in Time by Andrew J. Robinson (yes, THE Andrew J. Robinson). Read Avatar, Books I & II by S.D. Perry. Read Gateways: Demons of Air and Darkness by Keith R.A. DeCandido. Read the Mission: Gamma books by David R. George III, Heather Jarman, Michael A. Martin & Andy Mangels, and Robert Simpson. Read Unity by S.D. Perry. Read Cardassia: The Lotus Flower by Una McCormack in Worlds of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, Vol. I. Read "The Calling" by Andrew J. Robinson in Prophecy and Change. Read Warpath by David Mack and Fearful Symmetry by Olivia Wood. Read Articles of the Federation by Keith R.A. DeCandido.

And for historical background, read Terok Nor: Day of the Vipers by James Swallow, The Lost Era: The Art of the Impossible by Keith R.A. DeCandido, Terok Nor: Night of the Wolves and Terok Nor: Dawn of the Eagles by S.D. Perry and Britta Denison. And then, on top of that, read Destiny: Mere Mortals by David Mack.

Then, once you've done all that, then, by all means, accuse Pocket Books of insufficient world-building and of unrealistically depicting the rebuilding of Cardassia. But until then, you are speaking out of ignorance and making inaccurate assumptions about the implications of my comparison.

My comparison was not meant to be exact. Rather, it was meant to suggest an analogy: A former power rebuilding itself, and starting -- starting -- to regain some steam upon the assumption of power by a new leader who is less friendly to the democratic powers.

Let me assure you, Cardassia is still muchly in ruins. Articles of the Federation, set a year before Destiny, contains a passage describing much of the planet as being little more than rubble, with orphans living in the streets and a government that's incapable of standing on its own. No one's saying that Cardassia has become a major power again.

What I talked about above was political prestige, and much of it a matter more of force of will from Garak and the new Castellan rather than as a result of any major economic or military recovery.

Man.. I have a LOT to read and unfortunately I can't find some of those books anymore. :(

Now, since I haven't read them, I'll admit, is there any possibility that Cardassia, or any other power for that matter, might eventually become a Nazi Germany like state following the destruction that happened to Germany in WWI and the problems with the Weimar Republic?

Just based on what I read, it seems like Cardassia may be the former empire in which this may be possible?

If it sounds crazy, I apologize. It's just conjecture and I have a LOT to catch up on.
 
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Man.. I have a LOT to read and unfortunately I can't find some of those books anymore. :(

Now, since I haven't read them, I'll admit, is there any possibility that Cardassia, or any other power for that matter, might eventually become a Nazi Germany like state following the destruction that happened to Germany in WWI and the problems with the Weimar Republic?

Just based on what I read, it seems like Cardassia may be the former empire in which this may be possible?

If it sounds crazy, I apologize. It's just conjecture and I have a LOT to catch up on.

Well, the Cardassian Union was already essentially a totalitarian military dictatorship, so I'm not sure how much more Nazi-ish they could get.

Right now, they are a democracy, albeit a barely functional one. We don't know under what circumstances the new Castellan came to power -- though we do know that Elim Garak remains a key player in the Cardassian government. Garak seemed to convert to liberal democracy in A Stitch in Time, sooooo.... We'll see! :)
 
is there any possibility that Cardassia, or any other power for that matter, might eventually become a Nazi Germany like state
As noted above, that's pretty much the way they were under Central Command, before the Dominion War.

following the destruction that happened to Germany in WWI
In terms of physical destruction, Germany didn't see much during WW1. The major fighting was in France, Belgium, and (present-day) Poland.
 
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