Amazon Deforestation Accelerates

[Locutus of Bored]

And to bring the joke full circle back to the topic...

He doesn't understand that one is capable of understanding and taking a joke but also twisting it around and making it into a serious discussion.
Books at the end of the day do account for large amounts of deforestation joke or no joke.

What you don't understand is that the paper used for books doesn't have shit to do with deforestation of the Amazon rainforest. Reforestation is practiced by most wood pulp manufacturers because they're dependent on the wood for their business to survive.

The vast majority of Amazon rainforest is cut down as pasture for livestock, and to grow soybeans (both for livestock feed and other uses).

So, you missed the joke, your understanding of deforestation causes is wrong, you're completely incapable of recognizing sarcasm, and you're congratulating yourself on coming up with ideas that already exist. Keep digging that hole.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

^ neither myself nor Holdfast mentioned the trees used for books came from the Amazon, we're talking about deforestation in general and not just the Amazon.
If we didn't need to make books it would mean we don't need to use as many trees. Does your logic chip process that?

 

[Hoser]

^^sorry but you're wrong

 

[Locutus of Bored]

^ neither myself nor Holdfast mentioned the trees used for books came from the Amazon, we're talking about deforestation in general and not just the Amazon.
If we didn't need to make books it would mean we don't need to use as many trees. Does your logic chip process that?

Books are not anywhere near a primary problem where deforestation is concerned, because most wood pulp companies - for entirely selfish reasons of wanting to stay in business, as I said before - replant most of the trees they cut down.

In fact, mining to gather the metals used in making your mass produced e-book readers and memory cards would probably cause more deforestation, like coltan mining (used for most modern electronics) does in Central Africa especially and other places. The miners have no monetary motivation to replenish the trees they cut down like wood pulp manufacturers do.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

 

[Captain X]

http://www.treefarmsystem.org/cms/pages/20_5.html

http://64.233.169.132/search?q=cach...per&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a

Most trees used for paper come from forests called managed timberlands. Timber companies practice sustainable forestry to manage these timberlands by replanting more trees than they harvest. Today, two new trees are planted for every one tree harvested in the United States.


Some managed timberlands are tree farms. A tree farm is much like a garden, where trees are planted and harvested over and over again. This cycle can go on forever, so that we will never "run out" of trees. In fact, many forests might not exist at all if trees weren't planted and harvested by industry.

These sustainable forestry practices ensure that we will always have plenty of trees - and paper - to enjoy - today and for years to come.

There is no deforestation occuring to produce paper.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

I call bullshit, it's false propaganda to make you feel happy and dosile. There's no way they're planting and growing trees faster than they're cutting them down.

 

[Holdfast]

^ neither myself nor Holdfast mentioned the trees used for books came from the Amazon, we're talking about deforestation in general and not just the Amazon.

What's with the "we"?

The plaque for the alternates is down in the ladies room.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

^ neither myself nor Holdfast mentioned the trees used for books came from the Amazon, we're talking about deforestation in general and not just the Amazon.

What's with the "we"?

The plaque for the alternates is down in the ladies room.

I thought we were talking about deforestation and the effects that books have on it. no?

 

[Holdfast]

^ neither myself nor Holdfast mentioned the trees used for books came from the Amazon, we're talking about deforestation in general and not just the Amazon.

What's with the "we"?

The plaque for the alternates is down in the ladies room.

I thought we were talking about deforestation and the effects that books have on it. no?

Don't ask me, I was just making random jokes and suddenly found myself in the middle of a serious conversation.

 

[Captain X]

I call bullshit, it's false propaganda to make you feel happy and dosile. There's no way they're planting and growing trees faster than they're cutting them down.

Believe hippy propaganda if it makes you feel better, but considering that paper is made by grinding wood up into a pulp, you don't exactly have to have a full-sized tree to make it. And considering that they started doing this in the 1940s, I'm pretty sure trees planted back then would be plenty big - a pine tree in my yard was planted in the '60s at only a few feet tall, and it is now 50 feet tall. So call bullshit all you want, it makes it that much more entertaining.

 

[Mallory]

I call bullshit, it's false propaganda to make you feel happy and dosile. There's no way they're planting and growing trees faster than they're cutting them down.

Maybe where you live. Around here people's lives and jobs depend on there being a steady supply of trees, so they take replanting very seriously. As does the state which inspects all replanted sites.

Believe hippy propaganda if it makes you feel better, but considering that paper is made by grinding wood up into a pulp, you don't exactly have to have a full-sized tree to make it. And considering that they started doing this in the 1940s, I'm pretty sure trees planted back then would be plenty big - a pine tree in my yard was planted in the '60s at only a few feet tall, and it is now 50 feet tall. So call bullshit all you want, it makes it that much more entertaining.

Exactly right. And most of the big paper companies have their own thousands of square miles of timber that they've managed for decades to maintain a good supply for the pulp and paper mills.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

What's with the "we"?

The plaque for the alternates is down in the ladies room.

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I thought we were talking about deforestation and the effects that books have on it. no?

Don't ask me, I was just making random jokes and suddenly found myself in the middle of a serious conversation.

He still thinks you were making a serious comment about the Amazon rainforest instead of a joke about Amazon.com, but he "gets it."

The fact that you constantly beat your head against a brick wall explains a lot.

 

[Captain X]

 

[All Seeing Eye]

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I thought we were talking about deforestation and the effects that books have on it. no?

Don't ask me, I was just making random jokes and suddenly found myself in the middle of a serious conversation.

He still thinks you were making a serious comment about the Amazon rainforest instead of a joke about Amazon.com, but he "gets it."

The fact that you constantly beat your head against a brick wall explains a lot.

Why are you trolling me, please stop. Thanks.

 

[Captain X]