What direction should Bond go in from here?

[Zeppster]

I say Rotten Tomatoes is an unreliable source when GoldenEye has a 81% score, despite having similar gaping flaws in it's writing and directing in comparison to Brosnan's other movies, making it immensely overrated. IMDb seems a little more accurate, since GE has a score of 7.1.

Even with it's flaws and there are many, it's pretty good. I still like TND more but GE was pretty good, but the thing about most Bond movies before CR-QOS they weren't really sequels they really had nothing to do with each other. You could watch FRWL without ever watching Dr No and watch GF without watching FRWL and so on. None of the Bond films had any major story line taken from the last one into the next one. Yes there may have been a reference dropped in one film or another and I could list several of those. But in all the Bond films of the past tried to make their seperate, completely different adventure. That's different from QoS and that's probably why it has it's detractors. Some of the things in this one had something to reference from the last one and I think some people missed on that and it has it's detractors for that reason.

 

[MyCylon]

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I was wondering if that might be one of the reasons QoS isn't being rated as well as CR. You do have to have seen CR in order to make sense of QoS. It's so closely tied to its predecessor.

Personally, I love the fact that they did that. And I think it would be terrific if the next outing were also tied very closely to CR and QoS. I enjoy serialized storytelling in general, so I think it's great to see it here as well.

 

[MeanJoePhaser]

Bond has changed direction with each new actor at least.

Is Moore's Bond really reconcilable with Connery's? Dalton's with Moore's? Brosnan's with Dalton's?

And that other guy.

I find the "Bond should be without ethics" stance to be a misreading of the character, too. If Bond were lacking in ethics, he'd have joined S.P.E.C.T.R.E. and become the next Red Grant. For all his lust and violent tendencies, Bond is a hero.

Some people want him to be an empty shell "super hero". But it's funny, what makes actual superhero films worth a shit is when the character actually comes across as a person. Take away Peter Parker's troubles and he's just a wise cracking twit. Take away Bruce Wayne's angst and he's just a rich vigilante asshole in a stupid costume.

 

[IJD GAF]

I think age-wise, logic-wise, you could say that Connery, Lazenby, and Moore are the same Bond. You could say Dalton and Brosnan are the same Bond. And you could say Craig is the third.

Not to say that each film isn't its own universe for the most part. But I sort of like that explanation.

 

[HRHTheKING]

I'd like to see a return of Q, gadgets, Moneypenny, the gunbarrel at the start etc...

What's the point of stripping away so many Bond trademark elements?

"Quantum of Solace" was so generically an action movie it didn't really need to have the 007 name attached to it.

 

[TedShatner10]

With Bond causing so much damage by finishing off two of Quantum's major money making operations in a row, while nearly getting Mr. White on one occasion, and shutting down one successful method of turning enemy operatives to their cause, it is very likely they'll formulate a special scheme dedicated to getting rid of James Bond for good, like SPECTRE/SMERSH did in both renditions of FRWL. MI6 as a organization is much more of a target (than it already is in the 00s) with a Quantum operation feasibly more devastating than the Cigar Woman's attack.

Quantum could send its top men and women after James Bond, with most of them being ex-special forces, with others having unusual talents or unique forms of weaponry (like Jaws and Oddjob, but less comic book campy). How is that as a basic plot for Bond 23?

 

[KB24]

I hate Moonraker.

How could one not love Sharpe? Honestly.

 

[Siwilliams]

The gun barrel being at the end of Quantum Of Solace annoyed me so much (not to mention it did not make sense) and even the semi gun barrel in Casion Royale annoyed me as well. Its' like the Bond producers are trying to make the series non Bond

 

[Siwilliams]

Sean Bean could still be Bond, they had a good guy play a bad guy before, the one actor in both You Only Live Twice and Diamonds Are Forever and then The Living Daylights villain being Jack Wade in Goldeneye and Tomorrow Never Dies

 

[Skywalker]

Nah, I think Bean's a bit too old (he turns 50 next year) to be starting out as Bond.

 

[Siwilliams]

Nah, I think Bean's a bit too old (he turns 50 next year) to be starting out as Bond.

That is beside the point (my opinion) he looks younger

 

[Zeppster]

Daniel Craig is Bond and will be for at least 3 more movies. And he should be. I just hope that they continue this Bond continuity on to the next Bond.

 

[Siwilliams]

Daniel Craig is Bond and will be for at least 3 more movies. And he should be. I just hope that they continue this Bond continuity on to the next Bond.

No moneypenny or Q or gadgets....I hope the continuity does not continue and they return to what Bond used to be...trashing 20 Bond movies previously...stupidest thing the producers have come up with

 

[Jonas Grumby]

I love that the ridiculous gadgets and the lame, adolescent-level double-entendres are mostly gone.

Moneypenny? Well, I don't really have anything against her, but her sole purpose seemed to be to make googoo eyes at Bond and feed him straight lines for even more of those ridiculous double-entendres. Do we really need her?

Hopefully, there will be so few (preferably none) outlandish gadgets that an appearance by Q will seldom be called for. (In fact, should Bond ever be required to, say, switch handguns for some reason, I personally hope the guy delivering the replacement will be referred to as "Major Boothroyd" or "Quartermaster."

Please, God, NO MORE of that damned, irritating, jerky-camera, quick-cutting Bourne action scene crap!

 

[Siwilliams]

I love that the ridiculous gadgets and the lame, adolescent-level double-entendres are mostly gone.

Moneypenny?

Without those, it really is not James Bond from the movies, the last two are what they are, Bourne films

 

[DWF]

I love that the ridiculous gadgets and the lame, adolescent-level double-entendres are mostly gone.

Moneypenny?

Without those, it really is not James Bond from the movies, the last two are what they are, Bourne films

Connery's movies didn't start out with alot of gadgets or too many double entrendres, For Your Eyes Only was pretty freee of them as well and they worked out rather well.

 

[Siwilliams]

I love that the ridiculous gadgets and the lame, adolescent-level double-entendres are mostly gone.

Moneypenny?

Without those, it really is not James Bond from the movies, the last two are what they are, Bourne films

Connery's movies didn't start out with alot of gadgets or too many double entrendres, For Your Eyes Only was pretty freee of them as well and they worked out rather well.

Dr No had cheesy lines, the scene when the cab blows up and then when he drops the car off with the dead body and goes to see Lighter. Also, the suit case was not considered a gadget?

Also For Your Eyes Only, recently watched all the films and this one had a lot of double entendres, especially with the skiing.

 

[DWF]

Without those, it really is not James Bond from the movies, the last two are what they are, Bourne films

Connery's movies didn't start out with alot of gadgets or too many double entrendres, For Your Eyes Only was pretty freee of them as well and they worked out rather well.

Dr No had cheesy lines, the scene when the cab blows up and then when he drops the car off with the dead body and goes to see Lighter. Also, the suit case was not considered a gadget?

Also For Your Eyes Only, recently watched all the films and this one had a lot of double entendres, especially with the skiing.

But not overloaded with them though, they also had Bond being more violent than usual.

 

[Siwilliams]

Connery's movies didn't start out with alot of gadgets or too many double entrendres, For Your Eyes Only was pretty freee of them as well and they worked out rather well.

Dr No had cheesy lines, the scene when the cab blows up and then when he drops the car off with the dead body and goes to see Lighter. Also, the suit case was not considered a gadget?

Also For Your Eyes Only, recently watched all the films and this one had a lot of double entendres, especially with the skiing.

But not overloaded with them though, they also had Bond being more violent than usual.

Still, those felt more like Bond movies and kept the usual trademarks and the ones that followed as well

 

[The Wormhole]

The gun barrel being at the end of Quantum Of Solace annoyed me so much (not to mention it did not make sense) and even the semi gun barrel in Casion Royale annoyed me as well. Its' like the Bond producers are trying to make the series non Bond

The gunbarrel in Casion Royale, while different then traditional, I thought was actually okay. It worked with the way the scene was done. I do agree, having it at the end of Quantum of Solace was annoying.