HEROES 3x10 "The Eclipse, Part 1" Discuss and Grade
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I actually went into this episode with the thought of maybe these episodes were going to say a lot about this season, these characters, maybe make it all sensible, and hey, they are dealing with the logo of the show. How about actually exploring it.
Instead I get in incohearent mess with characters flip-flopping, being stupid, not figuring things out on there own, and oh the episode was too damn dark to the point where I had to turn the lights off just to see what the heck was going on. What have they done to Heroes. I remember joining in late in season 1 (Pretty much watching the entire season online the final month and a half of the show) and really liking it. I liked the character build-up, I liked episodes like Company Man and liked the cliffhangers that came with each episode.
Then Season 2 came and something seemed off but I still watched. I actually liked the storyline and after the flashback episode, I actually started to appreciate the season. Things came together, characters were put in place, and the final showdown for this average season seemed relatively decent.
Here comes season 3 and we get characters who I don't even understand anymore. If this was supposed to be an "event" type thing, they failed and failed miserably. I didn't even care that Daphne had the bad legs, or Claire got shot (My favorite character two seasons ago and when she got shot, I was like, ho hum, next). I kept on saying "What" like David Tennent on Doctor Who and I just didn't get anything. Whatever is in store for the rest of the season better be good because 3 episodes in a row, I don't think they can salvage this season. Krieg seems to be like "Well, this season was a massive failure so lets make it a comedy and see if it gets a rise out of people with nonsenical stuff" right now. Whatever gatorade he was on during Comic-Con, well, the emperor has removed the clothing because this season flat out sucks and sucks hard.
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Instead I get in incohearent mess with characters flip-flopping, being stupid, not figuring things out on there own, and oh the episode was too damn dark to the point where I had to turn the lights off just to see what the heck was going on. What have they done to Heroes. I remember joining in late in season 1 (Pretty much watching the entire season online the final month and a half of the show) and really liking it. I liked the character build-up, I liked episodes like Company Man and liked the cliffhangers that came with each episode.
Then Season 2 came and something seemed off but I still watched. I actually liked the storyline and after the flashback episode, I actually started to appreciate the season. Things came together, characters were put in place, and the final showdown for this average season seemed relatively decent.
Here comes season 3 and we get characters who I don't even understand anymore. If this was supposed to be an "event" type thing, they failed and failed miserably. I didn't even care that Daphne had the bad legs, or Claire got shot (My favorite character two seasons ago and when she got shot, I was like, ho hum, next). I kept on saying "What" like David Tennent on Doctor Who and I just didn't get anything. Whatever is in store for the rest of the season better be good because 3 episodes in a row, I don't think they can salvage this season. Krieg seems to be like "Well, this season was a massive failure so lets make it a comedy and see if it gets a rise out of people with nonsenical stuff" right now. Whatever gatorade he was on during Comic-Con, well, the emperor has removed the clothing because this season flat out sucks and sucks hard.
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I was bored in the beginning of the episode, and I was annoyed at the end. But I really liked the middle and wish they would have followed through with it.
My favorite scene was when Angela woke up and everybody was standing in her hospital room, followed by the scene of the other people people standing around Arthur Petrelli.
I really wanted to believe that Angela's group was the GOOD GUYS and that Arthur's group was the BAD GUYS. They might turn out to be that way, but of course they split the characters up 5 minutes later. I am so tired of every character needing their own individual storyline. Why can't these people stay around each other for more than a few minutes without galavanting off?
My favorite scene was when Angela woke up and everybody was standing in her hospital room, followed by the scene of the other people people standing around Arthur Petrelli.
I really wanted to believe that Angela's group was the GOOD GUYS and that Arthur's group was the BAD GUYS. They might turn out to be that way, but of course they split the characters up 5 minutes later. I am so tired of every character needing their own individual storyline. Why can't these people stay around each other for more than a few minutes without galavanting off?
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The only redeeming part of this episode was Seth Green and Meyer...God. It was a mess of an episode. Hiro -- seems no different than when he was however old he was.
Yeah, that whole thing was pretty dumb. Not to mention this whole idea that the last eclipse is what apparently manifested the powers of our heroes.
Except, you know, Claire, who began healing six months earlier. And Isaac, who had been painting the future for a while. And Eden, who was apprehended by the company who knows when. And Nikki, who framed DL as Jessica six months earlier. And Sylar, who had the whole thing with Mohinder's father. And Elle, who was a company agent before the show pilot. And the Haitian, who was discovered as a boy. And the first person Sylar stole his powers from (telekinesis guy). And Nathan, who flew during his wife's car wreck, in spite of this episode's best efforts to convince us otherwise. And all the older heroes such as the Petrelli Parents, Linderman, George Takai, Adam, etc. And all the level 5 prisoners.
But hey, I guess Peter didn't really show any real powers until the pilot. And Hiro had his a little bit just before the eclipse, but if the same day, maybe that counts? Whee! Show, you're so good at continuity. And character motivations. And writing in general. It's still kind of fun to watch, though, if only because of how messed up it is at this point. Except for the parts with Mohinder. Those scenes are just annoying, dull, or both at the same time.
Except, you know, Claire, who began healing six months earlier. And Isaac, who had been painting the future for a while. And Eden, who was apprehended by the company who knows when. And Nikki, who framed DL as Jessica six months earlier. And Sylar, who had the whole thing with Mohinder's father. And Elle, who was a company agent before the show pilot. And the Haitian, who was discovered as a boy. And the first person Sylar stole his powers from (telekinesis guy). And Nathan, who flew during his wife's car wreck, in spite of this episode's best efforts to convince us otherwise. And all the older heroes such as the Petrelli Parents, Linderman, George Takai, Adam, etc. And all the level 5 prisoners.
But hey, I guess Peter didn't really show any real powers until the pilot. And Hiro had his a little bit just before the eclipse, but if the same day, maybe that counts? Whee! Show, you're so good at continuity. And character motivations. And writing in general. It's still kind of fun to watch, though, if only because of how messed up it is at this point. Except for the parts with Mohinder. Those scenes are just annoying, dull, or both at the same time.
I hated the ending ... rather predictable. I could predict the next scene.
That is at the end ... I did like the Noah/Claire scenes.
Anything would be better than Parkman/Daphne, I can't recall any pairing I've seen with less chemistry than those two. Plus, there's almost like a creepy uncle vibe about it all. I was dying when the local radio guys were talking to Brea Grant and asked her to fess up to how hard it is to work up interest in that "big fat slob".
I think Hiro/Daphne would have had some potential, ten-year-old Hiro is not very compelling.
And I hope they can retcon this whole "My powers made me do it" thing with Sylar. Any time Sylar starts acting like Captain Kirk's meek transporter double is really annoying.
Wow, I think I'm the only person who thought this was a decent episode. Maybe it's just because I was rooting for the Elle/Sylar Lovers-Rampage plotline in last week's thread, and now, only an episode later, they oblige! They are still two severly damaged psychos. The difference is that Sylar knows what good is- -he wasn't a killer his whole life- -whereas Elle seems to get hit by these intermitant fits of conscious when certain issues trigger her. I actually took her lack-of-capacity-to-function-in-the-outside-world as consistancy in writing. Same with Mister Lack of Self Esteem Sylar needing a few kind words and a pretty grin to turn to the Dark Side again.
Also, I know there's no way he'll fire it, but the way they lit Bennet's sniper rifle at the end, for a moment, I thought it was an Anti-Tank gun. And that's...that's about as Horn-Rimmed Glasses as a man can get. Bringing an Anti-Tank gun to a super hero fight.
Mohinder's plot pissed me off, though. What a cop-out. "Oh no I'm the liiiiizaaaaaaa- -oh, I'm okay now. Shit, I should probably appologize to Maya now that I no longer want to lay eggs in her skull. I wonder if Hallmark makes a 'I'm Sorry I coccooned you' card...I mean, it is that time of the year..."
Maybe I'm just biased because this is the first episode I watched on my new fancy 40inch hi-def screen. But I thought it was a pretty good episode, especially as the first part of a two parter.
Also, I know there's no way he'll fire it, but the way they lit Bennet's sniper rifle at the end, for a moment, I thought it was an Anti-Tank gun. And that's...that's about as Horn-Rimmed Glasses as a man can get. Bringing an Anti-Tank gun to a super hero fight.
Mohinder's plot pissed me off, though. What a cop-out. "Oh no I'm the liiiiizaaaaaaa- -oh, I'm okay now. Shit, I should probably appologize to Maya now that I no longer want to lay eggs in her skull. I wonder if Hallmark makes a 'I'm Sorry I coccooned you' card...I mean, it is that time of the year..."
Maybe I'm just biased because this is the first episode I watched on my new fancy 40inch hi-def screen. But I thought it was a pretty good episode, especially as the first part of a two parter.
.....the show desperately needs helps.
No, I really liked this episode too (yeah, I'm the lone excellent vote people, deal with it!
) and I'm really surprised by all the bashing it's getting. Can't wait to see what happens next week!Matt still has the memories and feelings he felt in his spirit walk stuff, so I can understand why he feels he "loves" Daphne. And its not like she said it too, that would have been unbelievable.
I liked this weeks episode better than last weeks, though how nearly none of them (I think the Haitian did) put two and two together and realised that "powers disappeared the moment the eclipse started" I dont know....
I hope they are changing Sylar back to being unremorseful and everything, because the compasionate, redemptional Sylar they have been attempting to build up just was terrible.
A really awful mess, incoherent and increasingly pointless.
Ali Larter plays three different characters in the precisely the same way, I suspect, because Kirsten Bell keeps stealing all the other personalities ... one after the other in a random sequence. Seth Green steals the show by ... er ... standing there.
Gads.
Ali Larter plays three different characters in the precisely the same way, I suspect, because Kirsten Bell keeps stealing all the other personalities ... one after the other in a random sequence. Seth Green steals the show by ... er ... standing there.
Gads.
So, if there's anyone who thinks Sylar is still an interesting character... yeah.
I think it's kind of funny that they're trying to recapture the S1 magic by having yet another "save the cheerleader" moment.
I think it's kind of funny that they're trying to recapture the S1 magic by having yet another "save the cheerleader" moment.
Save the cheerleader? More like slap the cheerleader and send her to college overseas.