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Official Trailer Review & Comments Thread!! [Spoilers, of course]

Umm, they are?
Yep:

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Expensive in a society without money?
How does Scotty earn his pay and buy a boat? How does Kirk sell his house from Generations? With what does Uhura buy the Tribble from Cyrano Jones? TOS never bothered with that "there's no money" nonsense.

Dangerous in a society that has conquered space travel, inertia and gravity?
Extremely. Floating around in a space suit in a spacedock trying to build a massive starship from raw materials would be incredible difficult and insanely dangerous. You'd also need the entire construction staff to be masters of zero-G construction. You'd have a larger and cheaper labor pool doing most of it on the ground. Even Roddenberry imagined that the Enterprise was built mostly on the ground.

I could get behind building the major structures on the ground (as seems to be the case in the UP picture) and then assembling them in orbit but building the whole thing from the gound up on the ground? Don't buy it.

As for the money issue, it's a push on that one. It's always been my belief that some form of currency or payment exsists. It almost has too. But it would also seem to be a very different economy. The "cost" of building something "expensive" like a starship in orbit is probably irrelevant in Trek's time. Considering, again, how ingraned into society space travel is.

As for danger and risk, I again point out that spacetravel and spacewalking is very much an "everyday" thing in the 23c. It still certainly carries with it a danger and a risk but not as much as I think you're supposing it to be.
 
I don't think the 'building on the ground' aspect is a problem at all. I was a bit surprised to find that the ship would be built in it's entirety on the ground though. I was thinking it would be assembled in space in a few large sections.

I can't wait to see a group of ships in dock at the same time. That will be sweeet!
 
I could get behind building the major structures on the ground (as seems to be the case in the UP picture) and then assembling them in orbit but building the whole thing from the gound up on the ground? Don't buy it.
If you like, you can do what I do and adopt TGT's idea that what we see in the trailer is part of an all-up systems test before she's broken down and boosted into orbit, to be re-assembled and finalized... *shrugs* Unless we see her launch, there's nothing to contradict that.

As for danger and risk, I again point out that spacetravel and spacewalking is very much an "everyday" thing in the 23c. It still certainly carries with it a danger and a risk but not as much as I think you're supposing it to be.
It'll always be safer to build on the ground, and there will be a lot more people willing to do it. I really doubt your average blue-collar Joe is going to want to float around miles above the Earth with a flimsy suit between him and a painful death. There's also radiation and the possibility of micrometeoroids to deal with. I'm sure there are plenty of well-trained spacewalkers by that time - I'm also sure they're in the minority.

As for economics, even if they don't have money (which they do), cost can also mean other things. Cost in resources, effort, energy, etc...
 
Which reminds me - does anyone know if there's any sign of Sam in this movie? Just curious.
If you mean George Samuel Kirk, Jr., then yes, but only as a boy, presumably in some of the Young James Kirk and Uncle Frank scenes.
 
"Oh my God. I don't believe it."
My wife just saw the second Trailer. Her analysis:

"That was less like Star Trek than the Starship Troopers movie was like the book."

Enjoy your reboot, everyone. Mediocre sci-fi drek for the masses.
 
"Oh my God. I don't believe it."
My wife just saw the second Trailer. Her analysis:

"That was less like Star Trek than the Starship Troopers movie was like the book."

Enjoy your reboot, everyone. Mediocre sci-fi drek for the masses.
She's quite wrong. Star Trek has ranged all over the board from action to humor to introspective drama to romance. Furthermore, we know little about the movie itself, especially just from watching the trailer. There is noting to suggest its mediocre.
 
"Oh my God. I don't believe it."
My wife just saw the second Trailer. Her analysis:

"That was less like Star Trek than the Starship Troopers movie was like the book."

Enjoy your reboot, everyone. Mediocre sci-fi drek for the masses.

You mean Starship Troopers trailer...right? If you have the new film, please pass it along to the rest of us.
 
"Oh my God. I don't believe it."
My wife just saw the second Trailer. Her analysis:

"That was less like Star Trek than the Starship Troopers movie was like the book."

Enjoy your reboot, everyone. Mediocre sci-fi drek for the masses.
She's quite wrong. Star Trek has ranged all over the board from action to humor to introspective drama to romance. Furthermore, we know little about the movie itself, especially just from watching the trailer. There is noting to suggest its mediocre.

You're absolutely right. Trailers never give *any* indication as to the content of a movie. In fact, I'm sure none of the scenes depicted will be in that finished film.
 
I watched Fringe tonight. Guess what the first commercial was? THE NEW STAR TREK TRAILER!!! It was awesome. It started out after the Corvette scene... ends with Nero, "The wait is over." Looked really awesome!

Boys and girls, Star Trek is back and it's cool!
 
I watched Fringe tonight. Guess what the first commercial was? THE NEW STAR TREK TRAILER!!! It was awesome. It started out after the Corvette scene... ends with Nero, "The wait is over." Looked really awesome!

Boys and girls, Star Trek is back and it's cool!

Yeah, I caught that too!!
Looks like Star Trek is back!!!

May seems so very far away!
 
"Oh my God. I don't believe it."
My wife just saw the second Trailer. Her analysis:

"That was less like Star Trek than the Starship Troopers movie was like the book."

Enjoy your reboot, everyone. Mediocre sci-fi drek for the masses.
Your wife's a moron.
 
"Oh my God. I don't believe it."
My wife just saw the second Trailer. Her analysis:

"That was less like Star Trek than the Starship Troopers movie was like the book."

Enjoy your reboot, everyone. Mediocre sci-fi drek for the masses.
She's quite wrong. Star Trek has ranged all over the board from action to humor to introspective drama to romance. Furthermore, we know little about the movie itself, especially just from watching the trailer. There is noting to suggest its mediocre.

You're absolutely right. Trailers never give *any* indication as to the content of a movie. In fact, I'm sure none of the scenes depicted will be in that finished film.
Its all taken very much out of context. What was so un-Star Trek about it? Starships - check. Phasers - check. Transporters - check. Space battles - check. Introspective voice-overs - check.

Seriously. If this doesn't look like Star Trek to you and your wife, you need to watch more Star Trek.
 
"Oh my God. I don't believe it."
My wife just saw the second Trailer. Her analysis:

"That was less like Star Trek than the Starship Troopers movie was like the book."

Enjoy your reboot, everyone. Mediocre sci-fi drek for the masses.
Your wife's a moron.
Don't insult his cousin like that.
One more sexy incest reference and I'm going to expose myself. And you don't want me exposing myself.
 
I watched Fringe tonight. Guess what the first commercial was? THE NEW STAR TREK TRAILER!!! It was awesome. It started out after the Corvette scene... ends with Nero, "The wait is over." Looked really awesome!

Boys and girls, Star Trek is back and it's cool!

Awesome, isn't it? How many months away is this?! The marketing is shaping up very well so far. I wouldn't be surprised if one of those spots showed up fairly regularly during Fringe from here on out.
 
"Oh my God. I don't believe it."
My wife just saw the second Trailer. Her analysis:

"That was less like Star Trek than the Starship Troopers movie was like the book."

Enjoy your reboot, everyone. Mediocre sci-fi drek for the masses.
Your wife's a moron.

What is it the mods always say, don't insult the poster, just insult the post? But I guess going by this that it is open season on wives?

Tell ya what, JB. From what I see coming out on the page here, regardless of what you have or haven't got between your legs, you are a cunt. c-u-n-t. Why don't you threaten to poison that poster's dog while you're at it, you classless act. fuckin' ignoramus.
 
I watched Fringe tonight. Guess what the first commercial was? THE NEW STAR TREK TRAILER!!! It was awesome. It started out after the Corvette scene... ends with Nero, "The wait is over." Looked really awesome!

Boys and girls, Star Trek is back and it's cool!

Awesome, isn't it? How many months away is this?! The marketing is shaping up very well so far. I wouldn't be surprised if one of those spots showed up fairly regularly during Fringe from here on out.

Well, it is a Bad Robot production.
 
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