explanation for the new look of 'E'
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Hopefully, the movie won't be bogged down with any pointless explanations for why it looks different.
Or a lady friend. My wife helps me curb my nerdy obsessions with meaningless minutiae by offering a more reasonable point of view. She's a Trekkie as well.
So you're back to this stuff, MattJC - anyone who disagrees with your opinions of Abrams, Orci or anyone else associated with this movie has his / her "head up the ass" of that individual. Really classy stuff. They can't possibly be willing to wait and see the movie, or prefer not to form snap judgements of people based on a trailer, a few photos and a supposed refusal to deal with you elsewhere. Frankly, if you're as antagonistic and flat-out rude there as you are here, Mr. Orci's well within his rights to refuse to respond to you.
At this point it might be better to get back to the point of this thread rather than go around in circles with a poster who's made his low opinion of a lot of us quite clear.
Agreed. Hopefully any such explanations will be self-explanatory. Kinda like how you didn't have Picard doing a speech explaining why things were different in "Yesterday's Enterprise." The writing was good so it all just sort of explained itself.
As I said before, I was being polite to the guy. It wasn't until AFTER he ignored me that I started becoming belligerent. He was the one being rude first.
Oh well, potāto/potahto. You feel that a visual change violates canon, and I don't. That's fine.
However, don't try to make it sound like Abrams, Kurtzman, and Orci just snuck up from behind me an hit me over the head with the "visual change 2x4". Most of us were aware of the fact that a visual change was indeed coming (especially after the teaser proved that back in January).
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even if this is an altered timeline that will eventually get "reset" by the conclusion of the film, I don't expect to see the 1966 designs (even slightly updated versions of those designs) at all in this film.
That's what I hope, too.
No, no. Orci has to respond to a complete stranger no matter how much of an ass-hat that person is to them. This is the kind of thinking that led to people like John Hinckley and Mark David Chapman.
These people don't owe you a damn thing, dude. They were tasked to write a movie and do their best to reinvigorate a series, no to bow to every piece of throwaya dialogu and stick to 40 year old designs based on the limitations of budget.
Seriously, I envy you if this stuff is your biggest worry.
These people don't owe you a damn thing, dude. They were tasked to write a movie and do their best to reinvigorate a series, no to bow to every piece of throwaya dialogu and stick to 40 year old designs based on the limitations of budget.
Seriously, I envy you if this stuff is your biggest worry.
OR it simply looks different this time.
Exactly! It is what it is, NCC-1701. No bloody A, B, C, D or alternate universe. The old is now the new, reimagined, reinvigorated and somewhat rebooted.
The new look of the 'enterprise' is not going to be explained within the context of the story of XI....it is what it is.
I have to agree, judging by past history. They give nods to the past, not favors.
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Seconded.
I wasn't the one being rude first.
HE was. Quit acting like he is some sort of saint.
That hardly gives you the right to turn up at this board and make the sorts of comments about posters here that you've recommenced making and derailing threads in the process. Be as upset at your alleged mistreatment by Mr. Orci as you like, but leave the antagonism out of threads here.
And look at the plot spoilers that have leaked out. Nero traveled back in time to change the timeline. Canon Spock traveled back to stop him. Nero's actions created an alternate timeline ala Yesterday's Enterprise. Do you wish to call Ronald D. Moore and Ira Steven Behr liars and con artists for disrespecting cannon in that episode? You have bits and pieces, you don't have the full script. I would think the ending would be rather important to determine how this movie fits in cannon. Things also needed to be updated. It gets more than a little silly when the iPhone in your pocket has more thechnology than the 23rd century starship you see on the screen.
The movie you appearantly wanted was Star Trek the first adventure, this isn't it. In my opinion this might actually be a better movie. for the first time we have something real at stake, the timeline itself. While the thought of changes being perminant scare the living hell out of me, the question of whether or not Abrams and Orci would actually have the cohones to do it has me more interested in the usually "Kirk saves the planet in the nick of time" movie storyline. Some of the best endings have been when the protagonists both win and lose at the same time. Take B5's call to arms for example. Sheridan stops the planet killer at the price but can't stop the plan B of the Drakh dropping the pleague on earth.
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