HEROES 3x09 "It's Coming" Discuss and Grade
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Well, I was liking this season, but I think I'm jumping over the fence to the side where people hated all the characters storylines and stupidness. This episode was weak, and given this is supposed to lead to a big "event" type thing with the eclipse, I can't say I'm looking forward to it very much.
Let's start with Claire. God what have the writers done to her this season. I liked her because of her innosense and because she seemed like a fun character and Hayden Penetierre is kind of attractive. Now they've made Claire into a dimwitted moron whose plan is to jump out the window and give away both her and Peters location. Then she makes one big leap of judgement that she is the catalyst and now I start thinking (Actually started thinking last week) they're just regurgitating season 1 and the whole Save the Cheerleader thing. Very much a
on her story tonight. It might be the thing that completely ruins any interest I have in her.
On Nathen's end, gee he wants to go and kill Aurther or he goes to talk to him and "is on the fence" instead? Where is the urgency.
Hiro, who actually became interesting is now back to the most annoying character on the show and now that he's 10, he's even more annoying. I wonder who Krieg or NBC thinks this demographic is. It's college students and adults in the 18-34 range. This show isn't supposed to be childish, but now they have gone and made Hiro more stupid and annoying than he already is by literally making him a child. Another tonight.
The only aspects of this episode that kept it from being really bad was Matt, Elle and Syler. Of course Elle flipping so soon might be that of the night, but it was still kind of interesting.
Below Average and a big fat. When does this volume end.
Let's start with Claire. God what have the writers done to her this season. I liked her because of her innosense and because she seemed like a fun character and Hayden Penetierre is kind of attractive. Now they've made Claire into a dimwitted moron whose plan is to jump out the window and give away both her and Peters location. Then she makes one big leap of judgement that she is the catalyst and now I start thinking (Actually started thinking last week) they're just regurgitating season 1 and the whole Save the Cheerleader thing. Very much a
on her story tonight. It might be the thing that completely ruins any interest I have in her.On Nathen's end, gee he wants to go and kill Aurther or he goes to talk to him and "is on the fence" instead? Where is the urgency.
Hiro, who actually became interesting is now back to the most annoying character on the show and now that he's 10, he's even more annoying. I wonder who Krieg or NBC thinks this demographic is. It's college students and adults in the 18-34 range. This show isn't supposed to be childish, but now they have gone and made Hiro more stupid and annoying than he already is by literally making him a child. Another
tonight.The only aspects of this episode that kept it from being really bad was Matt, Elle and Syler. Of course Elle flipping so soon might be that
of the night, but it was still kind of interesting. Below Average and a big fat
. When does this volume end.
Awesome episode. Bring on next week. I'm gonna try and not look at anything for next week's episode.
You know, for some reason, the lack of extras on this show really bugs me. Big fight in the plaza, nobody else there. Peter collapses on a downtown street and Noah finds him sometime later, nobody else there. Claire keeps jumping out of buildings, nobody's on the street when she splats. Peter gets thrown out a window to his death, no one else sees it. And apparently no one works at Primatech and people seem to come and go as they please at Pinehurst.
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Wow, I've now officially stopped caring about the show. Just like with Lost and BSG. What is it about serialized TV that can't work for more than 2 seasons?
Am I the only one who thinks that Little!Hiro is a ridicuously neat and hilarious idea?
As for Sylar/Elle, well...I can almost forgive it. Almost. After all, everybody kind of forgets that ol' Elle is just about as wacked in the head as Sylar is. She too is an unrepentant murderer, who char-broils people for fun and profit. While Sylar was remarkably self-possessed, Elle would pretty much do anything the Company told her to. Last weeks flashback showed us that she was capable of empathy, but in the end, she only messed that up. I think last week wasn't supposed to just show that Sylar-Is-Good and Elle-Is-Good, but just that Elle-Knows-She-Is-Responsible-For-Her-Father's-Death. She pushed Sylar over the edge- -felt really bad about it, but hey, whatcha gonna do? Following that, she got in trouble and then she had Peter to play with, and when Peter ran away, she killed a few people to find him, and then wait, Sylar's ba- -ohshit.
Which is why she was going out of control. Confronting Sylar and having them both forgive one another/dodge the responsibility of the murders definately helped them.
The real fun is if they both fall off of the wagon again. That'd be a neat, natural-born-killers kind of thing. Especially because I can honestly see Elle going first--Sylar was a relatively normal guy until his powers kicked in and his various psychosii stormed to the forefront of his brain. Elle, from what we know, was raised in a skinner-box and prodded with electrodes most of her life. Sylar kills and doesn't let himself care, Elle kills and doesn't know she should. "Hey, I said no mayo on my burger! *ZAP*" "...Elle, why did you- -you can't just shock the skin off of that man!" "Whoozle whuzzle?"
Also, I know I said I'd keep my mouth shut on the Sylar-As-A-White-Hat thing until the Villains arc was over, but I gotta say- -Sylar more or less just having Peter's power, and accessing it in an f'd up way for the last two years? I think that makes a lot of sense.
As for Sylar/Elle, well...I can almost forgive it. Almost. After all, everybody kind of forgets that ol' Elle is just about as wacked in the head as Sylar is. She too is an unrepentant murderer, who char-broils people for fun and profit. While Sylar was remarkably self-possessed, Elle would pretty much do anything the Company told her to. Last weeks flashback showed us that she was capable of empathy, but in the end, she only messed that up. I think last week wasn't supposed to just show that Sylar-Is-Good and Elle-Is-Good, but just that Elle-Knows-She-Is-Responsible-For-Her-Father's-Death. She pushed Sylar over the edge- -felt really bad about it, but hey, whatcha gonna do? Following that, she got in trouble and then she had Peter to play with, and when Peter ran away, she killed a few people to find him, and then wait, Sylar's ba- -ohshit.
Which is why she was going out of control. Confronting Sylar and having them both forgive one another/dodge the responsibility of the murders definately helped them.
The real fun is if they both fall off of the wagon again. That'd be a neat, natural-born-killers kind of thing. Especially because I can honestly see Elle going first--Sylar was a relatively normal guy until his powers kicked in and his various psychosii stormed to the forefront of his brain. Elle, from what we know, was raised in a skinner-box and prodded with electrodes most of her life. Sylar kills and doesn't let himself care, Elle kills and doesn't know she should. "Hey, I said no mayo on my burger! *ZAP*" "...Elle, why did you- -you can't just shock the skin off of that man!" "Whoozle whuzzle?"
Also, I know I said I'd keep my mouth shut on the Sylar-As-A-White-Hat thing until the Villains arc was over, but I gotta say- -Sylar more or less just having Peter's power, and accessing it in an f'd up way for the last two years? I think that makes a lot of sense.
My DVR did the same thing. Luckily, it was set to record the show right after. All that you missed was Arthur saying "It's coming."
And the preview:
Everybody apparently loses their powers. Claire gets shot and isn't able to heal.
What have they DONE to Sylar?
A lovely, creepy villain has been turned into...bleh. I know he was a popular character that they wanted to keep around, but to...
He was like Jeffrey Dahmer with super powers...Jeffrey Dahmer wouldn't have just..."Yeah, I just needed to empathize with people and then I wouldn't feel the need to eat them." It's bullshit and it's stupid.
And if Claire is the catalyst...ugh. Do we REALLY have to save the Cheerleader AGAIN to save the world AGAIN?
It was better than last weeks...but it's funny...the only thing that happened was the Hiro learned Arthur was alive and then promptly had that knowledge erased...ugh.
Again, not much happened, but warnings, warnings, warnings. Can someone do SOMETHING that affects CHANGE in the story...
A lovely, creepy villain has been turned into...bleh. I know he was a popular character that they wanted to keep around, but to...
He was like Jeffrey Dahmer with super powers...Jeffrey Dahmer wouldn't have just..."Yeah, I just needed to empathize with people and then I wouldn't feel the need to eat them." It's bullshit and it's stupid.
And if Claire is the catalyst...ugh. Do we REALLY have to save the Cheerleader AGAIN to save the world AGAIN?
It was better than last weeks...but it's funny...the only thing that happened was the Hiro learned Arthur was alive and then promptly had that knowledge erased...ugh.
Again, not much happened, but warnings, warnings, warnings. Can someone do SOMETHING that affects CHANGE in the story...
I complain about Hiro because I want to see him have actual character growth. Instead, they've given him... negative character growth. Great.
They also gave him waffles and fried chicken.
And more comics...
Super-powers...? Check
Waffles...? Check
Fried chicken...? Check
No memory of any adult responsibilities...? Check
Comic books...? Check
Wait until he learns about all the money in his bank account. Then it's time to hit the theme parks.
I gave this an Average which is the highest I can give an episode while the Peter situation persists.
Good points
- The Sylar and Elle scenes were great.
- Hiro's line about Captain America being dead, Spider-Man (even with the missing hyphen) revealing his identity and the Hulk being red was classic. Especially when you consider that Jeph Loeb is responsible for the latter.
- We actually began to see some point to what Arthur is up to.
Bad points
- The Peter situation persists. See below, however.
- As it stands, everyone with an active, destructive power is on Arthur's side. That's a bit too Dark Side of the Force/Light Side of the Force for me.
A fan theory I've heard follows what Snaploud suggested above but another theory I've heard suggests that...
I sincerely hope that's true as I'm very likely to be done with this show if the Peter situation persists for much longer, especially now they've nerfed Hiro as well.
Good points
- The Sylar and Elle scenes were great.
- Hiro's line about Captain America being dead, Spider-Man (even with the missing hyphen) revealing his identity and the Hulk being red was classic. Especially when you consider that Jeph Loeb is responsible for the latter.
- We actually began to see some point to what Arthur is up to.
Bad points
- The Peter situation persists. See below, however.
- As it stands, everyone with an active, destructive power is on Arthur's side. That's a bit too Dark Side of the Force/Light Side of the Force for me.
A fan theory I've heard follows what Snaploud suggested above but another theory I've heard suggests that...
...the eclipse has the opposite effect on Peter and possibly Maya, giving them their powers back.
I sincerely hope that's true as I'm very likely to be done with this show if the Peter situation persists for much longer, especially now they've nerfed Hiro as well.
I still think it's Claire. Kaito had access to her as well when she was in infant, and then he gave her to Noah Bennet. Why was trying to hide her if she wasn't the catalyst?
That's exactly what I like about Heroes, that people are NOT going back to be normal at the end of the episode. Everything will play out somehow, don't worry.
Hey, this is kind of neat. and a good way to level the playing field, for the 15 or so minutes it happens. Isn't that how long a solar eclipse is?
The eclipse is supposedly the central point of the series. Or the TSN turning point. It's image is in the motherfriggin opening for gosh frig sakes.
Frakkin eclipse gonna mess up all you haters. If it is the middle of the series, supposedly the series is mapped out for 5 seasons (read: shitty ratings reduced it to 5 chapters) and next season will be a shortened season to end it off on.
I've been over this before, but they keep doing it. They keep writing themselves in to corners and then coming up with stupid ways of keeping certain characters out of the way to explain why that person couldn't just fix it.
In season one, they needed Hiro out of the way so they put a mental block on his powers which conveniently took a few episodes to resolve while he found Kensei's sword - which he didn't even need!
In season two they needed Peter and Sylar out of the way so they took away Peter's memories and gave Sylar the virus which had the effect of... you guessed it... taking away his powers. They can't make up their minds about that since one minute he's only got his intuitive aptitude and his telekinesis and then in the future he's using powers he gained from Isaac Mendez and Ted Sprague - both of whom are too dead for him to copy again.
Plus they decided to get rid of Nikki so what did they do ? Took away her powers.
This season they've taken Peter's powers away and wiped Hiro's memories.
It's like I'm reading all of those issues of X-Treme X-Men with Claremont endlessly f***ing around with Rogue's powers all over again.
Average...
Some really good stuff but it got really silly just like the pilot episode of season 3...
* Hiro being 10 in his head, why not just take his power
* Daphene loves Matt, she barely knows him
* There just trying to hard to find a plot for Claire she needs to be killed off or kicked out the show
* Ellie now forgives Sylar so easy.
Some really good stuff but it got really silly just like the pilot episode of season 3...
* Hiro being 10 in his head, why not just take his power
* Daphene loves Matt, she barely knows him
* There just trying to hard to find a plot for Claire she needs to be killed off or kicked out the show
* Ellie now forgives Sylar so easy.
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