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The Death of Superman: 16 Years Later

I remember enjoying "Superman" quite a bit at the time - I even really liked the long hair when he came back. It was, of course, a passing style and sensibly changed after a while.
 
These were the only post-crisis comics I read up until a couple of years ago. I bought Superman for about a year following the return of Superman (until Luthor destroyed Metropolis) and then felt that they seriously went downhill and became boring, dull, and poorly written again.

My biggest problem with the wonder Death, Funeral, and Return of Superman story is that Superman should have disappeared from the scene for at least a half a year longer or so. The other Supermen really needed more time to be developed. Today it is a shame that Superboy is out of the picture and Steel is relegated to a recurring secondary character.
 
I remember it was like "9/11 on the comic book world." :(

9/11 on the comic book world? I wouldn't compare a comic character's death to a real-life tragedy.

I didn't read comics back in 1993 but, I said to myself (and a comic-loving friend) "Why the Hell would they want to kill off an American hero?!"

I have a Trade Paperback of that story. I never have finished reading it, even after having it for several years. I know Superman comes back from the dead but, the thought of him dying is just too damn much...

You don't kill off American heroes. Period.

So how did you feel about the death of Captain America?
 
"Funeral for a Friend" is probably the best part of the saga. Some of the individual parts, like the "Metropolis Mailbag" and Pa Kent's death, were emotionally affecting. The actual "Death" story is, as Steve notes, just Punch-Punch-Punch, though seeing Doomsday tear through the Jurgens-era Justice League was pretty surprising. (No, they weren't big guns, but they'd gone toe-to-toe with some of the DC Universe's biggest foes back in the Giffen era.)

I really liked Steel and Superboy.

I genuinely believed, at the time, that we'd reached the end of an era with Superman.
 
Adds to his ever growing list of comic books to devour


Hugo - tearing through Preacher at the moment
 
I remember it was like "9/11 on the comic book world." :(

9/11 on the comic book world? I wouldn't compare a comic character's death to a real-life tragedy.

I didn't read comics back in 1993 but, I said to myself (and a comic-loving friend) "Why the Hell would they want to kill off an American hero?!"

I have a Trade Paperback of that story. I never have finished reading it, even after having it for several years. I know Superman comes back from the dead but, the thought of him dying is just too damn much...

You don't kill off American heroes. Period.

So how did you feel about the death of Captain America?

Don't even get me started on that Bullshit! Killing off Captain America is bad enough but, having Iron Man of all people doing it is just criminal.
 
Uh, Iron Man didn't kill Captain America.
It was Sharon Carter, acting out post-hypnotic commands left by Dr. Faustus at the behest of Cap's old nemesis, Red Skull, who delivered the fatal blows (after he had already been wounded by Crossbones, also in Red Skull's employ)

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
 
Yep...I remember the Death of Superman and the arguement I had with my mother that he wasn't coming back (I was only fourteen and a little naive about the comic book industry LOL) same deal with Bane breaking Batman's back. I collected pretty much all the issues, never got a copy of the arm band pollybaged Superman #75 though, got a second print newstand edition at the supermarket. I have been contemplating buying the Death and Return of Superman Omnibus that DC released last year.
 
Uh, Iron Man didn't kill Captain America.
It was Sharon Carter, acting out post-hypnotic commands left by Dr. Faustus at the behest of Cap's old nemesis, Red Skull, who delivered the fatal blows (after he had already been wounded by Crossbones, also in Red Skull's employ)

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman

I was told something different by a comic-loving former friend. I haven't seen the issue myself. It did seem kinda weird that another one of the Avengers would kill Captain America, though.
 
"Funeral for a Friend" is probably the best part of the saga. Some of the individual parts, like the "Metropolis Mailbag" and Pa Kent's death, were emotionally affecting. The actual "Death" story is, as Steve notes, just Punch-Punch-Punch, though seeing Doomsday tear through the Jurgens-era Justice League was pretty surprising. (No, they weren't big guns, but they'd gone toe-to-toe with some of the DC Universe's biggest foes back in the Giffen era.)
I love Blue Beetle, but c'mon... I could take out Blue Beetle. It's hardly a difficult job. ;)
 
Uh, Iron Man didn't kill Captain America.
It was Sharon Carter, acting out post-hypnotic commands left by Dr. Faustus at the behest of Cap's old nemesis, Red Skull, who delivered the fatal blows (after he had already been wounded by Crossbones, also in Red Skull's employ)

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman

I was told something different by a comic-loving former friend. I haven't seen the issue myself. It did seem kinda weird that another one of the Avengers would kill Captain America, though.

In fairness to your friend, it was Iron Man's fault that the opening existed to take out Captain America and Cap died as an enemy of the state and Tony as well. So IM feels guilt-ridden over the whole thing. (BTW, you can find the whole synopsis by googling a little).
 
Uh, Iron Man didn't kill Captain America.
It was Sharon Carter, acting out post-hypnotic commands left by Dr. Faustus at the behest of Cap's old nemesis, Red Skull, who delivered the fatal blows (after he had already been wounded by Crossbones, also in Red Skull's employ)

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman

I was told something different by a comic-loving former friend. I haven't seen the issue myself. It did seem kinda weird that another one of the Avengers would kill Captain America, though.

In fairness to your friend, it was Iron Man's fault that the opening existed to take out Captain America and Cap died as an enemy of the state and Tony as well. So IM feels guilt-ridden over the whole thing. (BTW, you can find the whole synopsis by googling a little).

Well, that explains how Iron Man was involved...
 
Wow...I take that as a great compliment.

If you're interesting in taking the plunge, even if only to read "The Death of Superman," here are some options:

Yeah definitely, those are some good prices, less than $30 for a good read. I will definitely try them out.

I've always hated all these comics because of all these "extra dark/sinister" super antiheros. Superman as a character I've always liked though because he's a being who truly helps humanity out of the goodness of his own heart (I guess the fact that his character was based on the story of Jesus has to do partly with that :) )

Too bad your interest wasn't "piqued".

Wasn't sure of the correct spelling lol
 
Superman was made by two Jewish guys. I doubt they would have based it on Jesus in anyway.

Because a person is of one religion (or none) doesn't mean they can't borrow elements from other faiths in their storytelling, particularly when you're dealing with a cultural myth as pervasive as the story of Christ. Besides, the Messiah is a Jewish story - they only differ from Christians as to whether or not it's happened yet.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
 
I remember enjoying "Superman" quite a bit at the time - I even really liked the long hair when he came back. It was, of course, a passing style and sensibly changed after a while.

It looked ok when he was Superman but no one could figure out how to make it look good on Clark Kent. I was glad when he finally got a haircut.
 
Superman was made by two Jewish guys. I doubt they would have based it on Jesus in anyway.

Because a person is of one religion (or none) doesn't mean they can't borrow elements from other faiths in their storytelling, particularly when you're dealing with a cultural myth as pervasive as the story of Christ. Besides, the Messiah is a Jewish story - they only differ from Christians as to whether or not it's happened yet.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman

Well, both stories share a number of mythic elements that also appear in hundreds of other hero tales around the world, many of which were invented before the time of Christ or by peoples who would have had no knowledge of it.
 
I was never really into comics, but I do recall something about "The Death of Superman" being mentioned on television when I was little.

Although that may have been in reference to a TV show, I recall a character talking. And something about the mid-Atlantic, I think.
 
I may have to check them out sometime, I've never read the story because at that point I was really fed up with comic gimmicks and I never thought this was anything more than a really blatant one.
 
Well, both stories share a number of mythic elements that also appear in hundreds of other hero tales around the world, many of which were invented before the time of Christ or by peoples who would have had no knowledge of it.

Yes, but whereas it seems likely that two people in 1932 America/Canada could be influenced by the most popular story of the last two millenia, it's rather less likely they were inspired by the cult of Osiris or Mithraism, or else came up, wholly independantly, with a character that so closely cleaves to one of the most pervasive mythical stories of their time. Superman does correspond to a broad heroic archetype, particularly since (to keep this vaguely on topic) he has also undergone death and rebirth, but he is also more specifically an archetype of Christ within that broader category.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
 
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