Am I the only one who didn't like the trailer?

[PhoenixIreland]

Be careful judging how this is going to go by the tralier, star trek trailers are often poor reflections of their movies.
I remember some Generations trailers had clips from other movies or the series cluttered in them.

I agree with the general 20th century obsession ST writers seem to have and the bike and car were a little bit ...much...but I think the new hotter kirk looks good on the bike!
Maybe those vehicles should have looked more futuristic but who's to say they don't have replicas of old cars and bikes to play with on earth? With no war or crime it would be hard to find much to do.

The trailer was OK, a bit OTT and I did get a horrible star wars vibe in some parts of it, but as I sad, ST movie trailers are often crap, so by comparison this is probably good.

 

[Jefferies]

First off, why are Trekkies so fucking afraid of SEX? Is it because they've never had it, or because they think SEX is a bad, bad thing? If all other movies and TV shows can have SEX as a story forwarding mechanism, why can't Star Trek have so either? I mean in TOS you had Kirk banging any nearby hottie, Spock had a couple of SEX storylines and the hot-babe-of-the-week definitely had lots of SEXy parts of hers being displayed. So why the irrational hatred?

How about you get off your high horse for a moment and actually try to fathom what this guy is saying??? He is not complaining about sex per se, but who the Captain is having sex with!

Raising the point that Kirk isn't a man-whore who sleeps around with his female crew members is a valid concern. No need to put words in the original poster's mouth.

Suspecting that every Trekkie who believes in the moral integrity of the characters is a suppressed sexual prude is just plain offensive. So take your derisive and derogatory attitude some place else.

If you want to be constructive in your criticism, make the point like others have that this scene probably takes place before Kirk is on the Enterprise.

 

[SalvorHardin]

Raising the point that Kirk isn't a man-whore who sleeps around with his female crew members is a valid concern. No need to put words in the original poster's mouth.

I remember Kirk giving lustful looks and drooling over every single (inevitably hot) yeoman that stepped onto the bridge to get a signature...God knows how many he has actually had sex with.
If there is such a thing as man whore in Trek, that's Kirk.

In any case, we have no idea if the sex takes place when Uhura is Kirk's crew member.
Maybe he is just getting it on with Uhura the fellow cadet.

 

[Devon]

Raising the point that Kirk isn't a man-whore who sleeps around with his female crew members is a valid concern.

Kirk has a bastard child that he doesn't seem to have ever checked up on for 20 some years. 'Nuff said.

 

[starburst]

None of the explanations raised to why Kirk wouldnt get it on with any of the Enterprise crew in this movie are valid anyway, from the spoilers hes not even an official member of the crew let alone the Captain.

This is of course guessing this scene happens before hes made Captain of the Enterprise and not in a Bond style finale, tbh for all we know it could happen before they make it onto the ship.

 

[Vulcan Soul]

Then the trailer turns into an extremely quick-cut mess of fighting, monsters, crap blowing up, sex, and out-of-context one-liners.

First off, why are Trekkies so fucking afraid of SEX? Is it because they've never had it, or because they think SEX is a bad, bad thing? If all other movies and TV shows can have SEX as a story forwarding mechanism, why can't Star Trek have so either? I mean in TOS you had Kirk banging any nearby hottie, Spock had a couple of SEX storylines and the hot-babe-of-the-week definitely had lots of SEXy parts of hers being displayed. So why the irrational hatred?

Sorry man, you got it all wrong. For most people complaining about this (here or before), it's not about the notion of people having sex. But did it ever occur to you that maybe people don't watch Trek to see sex - or at least not portrayed in the kind of immature "look there sex!" fashion it has been portrayed any time the producers thought it would be neat to "sex it up"?

Ironic enough, TOS had the most mature approach about sex of all shows and movies because it was more subtle about it and did not hit you over the head with it at all - remember the scene of Kirk putting on his boots suggesting he had sex before? You don't need cheesy "love scenes" to bring that point across. Those strike me as a lot more stuck up than integrating it as a natural "nothing special here, nothing interesting to see" part of the storyline.

 

[CommanderRaytas]

First off, why are Trekkies so fucking afraid of SEX? Is it because they've never had it, or because they think SEX is a bad, bad thing? If all other movies and TV shows can have SEX as a story forwarding mechanism, why can't Star Trek have so either? I mean in TOS you had Kirk banging any nearby hottie, Spock had a couple of SEX storylines and the hot-babe-of-the-week definitely had lots of SEXy parts of hers being displayed. So why the irrational hatred?

Next point, the trailer was supposed to excite the audience. You know, that grab the attention of the people in the theatre thing? You conveniently forget to mention how Sarek does a voiceover about Spock being a "child of two worlds" or for Captain Pike lecturing young Kirk about being involved with "something important". And frankly, what do you want Trek to be? A movie where the actors are just sitting around talking about their dilemma's in the Enterprise's bar?

Your thoughts of Angry Spock is also jarring. How can that not be a great storyline?? Here we see Spock making a very illogical decision to join Starfleet in place of having a high position in the Vulcan Science Council. A decision, which is canon, made Spock and Sarek alienated for over a number of years. It not only fleshes out existing canon, it actually adds to it.

Just. Watch. The Damn. Movie. And then make an informed decision whether the final story was good or not.

Amen brother

Far better thought out and written than the original post.

And also agreed.

Exactly. What is the problem with a little sex? Sex is good, and we all know it sells if it's done right. The same thing goes for the one-liners. Actually that bit, Scotty's remark and grin, was my favourite in the trailer.

And angry Spock just rocks, it adds to his character really well, as does Kirk's James Dean attitude- and that's just from watching one trailer.

Anyway, I agree completely.

 

[Jefferies]

I remember Kirk giving lustful looks and drooling over every single (inevitably hot) yeoman that stepped onto the bridge to get a signature...God knows how many he has actually had sex with.
If there is such a thing as man whore in Trek, that's Kirk.

In any case, we have no idea if the sex takes place when Uhura is Kirk's crew member.
Maybe he is just getting it on with Uhura the fellow cadet.

The accusation that Kirk is a Casanova who sleeps around is just plain false and does not fit the facts. Fine he might have conceived a child without being married. Big deal, doesn’t mean he wasn’t in a relationship with Carroll Marcus at the time, which he most certainly was. Apart from that he has had very few recorded sexual encounters. The myth that he is a lady’s man has been debunked several times by numerous posters on this board. As far as I know, there is even a website that goes through every episode of TOS, which shows that he hardly ever got any real action. Doesn’t mean he didn’t like women or that he didn’t like flirting with them, but that doesn’t make him a man-whore, now does it?

I think this is one very good example of what is wrong with this movie and it’s so called “new” Star Trek fans. They make assumptions about something they know little about and want to make everyone believe their views are factual when indeed they are misinformed.

By all means, be a fan of the new movie, but don’t deride or misrepresent the rest of Star Trek because of it. Thank you.

 

[trekkerguy]

As far as I know, there is even a website that goes through every episode of TOS, which shows that he hardly ever got any real action..

Um yeah... it happend to be the '60's they weren't going to show that.
And since when was it more mature in flaunting barely dressed green-skinned women about in front of the whole crew?
Along with many other similar encounters of Kirks. Oh by the way everyone... the first black-white makeout on tv happened to be Kirk/Uhura.

 

[Kemaiku]

To the OP, nope you're not the only one who hated it.

 

[starburst]

I think this is one very good example of what is wrong with this movie and it’s so called “new” Star Trek fans. They make assumptions about something they know little about and want to make everyone believe their views are factual when indeed they are misinformed.

By all means, be a fan of the new movie, but don’t deride or misrepresent the rest of Star Trek because of it. Thank you.

How can there be new fans when the films not been released yet (or are you meaning fans of the "new" Star Trek?)

Gotta agree with you on Kirk, his rep as a ladies man was deffinatly exagerated by a few encounters (although the frequency did increase as the series went on)

 

[trekkerguy]

To the OP, nope you're not the only one who hated it.

You're from Subspace Comms right? Wow I bet that board is hilarious right now...

I think this is one very good example of what is wrong with this movie and it’s so called “new” Star Trek fans. They make assumptions about something they know little about and want to make everyone believe their views are factual when indeed they are misinformed.

I happen to have been watching the show and movies my entire life. Having seen every movie, and every episode of every series along with reading more than forty Trek novels... I am NOT a "New" fan and I doubt most the posters here are either, so stop trying to denounce our opinions with your misinformed misrepresentation of us.

 

[Jefferies]

Um yeah... it happend to be the '60's they weren't going to show that.
And since when was it more mature in flaunting barely dressed green-skinned women about in front of the whole crew?
Along with many other similar encounters of Kirks. Oh by the way everyone... the first black-white makeout on tv happened to be Kirk/Uhura.

First of all, the only time a barely dressed Orion female was ever paraded in front of Captain Kirk was in the episode “Whom Gods Destroy”. In that situation, A) the girl was doing it consensually and B) Kirk was under duress by Garth, so he had to go along with it. Later on when Garth uses Marta the Orion to coerce Kirk, he flat-out resists her.

And again the Kirk/Uhura make out was under duress. In fact, in that episode aliens had to telepathically force both Kirk's and Uhura's movements for this to happen.

Thus, this Kirk no womanizer makes!

So you see, you get all the facts wrong and make false claims on the basis of that. Thanks for proving my point.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

I really don't think you're the only one that feels this way Anticitizen, I'm mostly right there with you. The trailer feels like your run of the mill Hollywood blockbuster. Take away the uniforms and Spock's pointed ears, I'd never be able to tell it's Star Trek. It looks like it could be a cool action movie though, which I'm sure it's the point.

But it's been a long while since I was really excited about a new Trek thing on screen, big and small, and so far JJ's Trek hasn't be able to make me go WOW I really can't wait to see this! yet. And I'd really like to.

The fact that it's a prequel or a reboot or whatever doesn't help, I wanted new stories, I don't care about more Kirk&Spock. Been there, done that, that's my feeling right now. And that "rebel kid finds his destiny and purpose in life" angle they seem to be aiming at with Kirk? Sooo cliched...

I think I agree with you on each of these points and most of what the OP nicely articulated including the Nemesis vibe which I thought was just me.

Maybe the movie cliches will equate to mainstream success but it's made it hard for me to get personally excited for it just yet. I am interested though, and figure I'll have to see it more than once to get past my preconceptions and judge it on its own right.

 

[22 Stars]

I too was left a little worried after the trailer. It looked very 'transformers' to me. I want Trek to return to real action adventure but not at the expense of social commentary and exploring the human condition.

 

[The Wormhole]

I wasn't entirely impressed with the trailer. Yes, it does have some cool looking action scenes in it, I'll admit that much. But the rest of it looks like generic movie stuff.

And don't even get me started on Future Cop at the beginning. First of all, a badass state of the art hoverbike made in the 23rd century should have no problem overtaking a corvette from the 20th. And second of all, this is the first time we've seen civilian law enforcement on Earth (of the future) or even any Federation planet in any of Trek. Up until now, we've seen Starfleet take care of law enforcement. Yes, I know, that doesn't make any sense, but it is canon, and canon is of a higher importance than logic.

 

[Patrickivan]

I find the trailer to be less then inspiring. There seems to be this bizzare mix of new, old, and contempory images. I am not certain what they are trying to present to intrigue not only me (as a fan) but those who ordinarily, wouldn't really care about Trek. I can see people being intrigued, but not to the point of talking about the film.

But as a fan of Trek, I'll go see it none-the-less. But I do not have the same enthusiasm that I had when ST TUC, ST G, ST FC came out... So as a fan, I don't have the same interest- then what is this trailer presenting to gain the interest in non fans?

 

[ST-One]

I find the trailer to be less then inspiring. There seems to be this bizzare mix of new, old, and contempory images. I am not certain what they are trying to present to intrigue not only me (as a fan) but those who ordinarily, wouldn't really care about Trek. I can see people being intrigued, but not to the point of talking about the film.

But as a fan of Trek, I'll go see it none-the-less. But I do not have the same enthusiasm that I had when ST TUC, ST G, ST FC came out... So as a fan, I don't have the same interest- then what is this trailer presenting to gain the interest in non fans?

Action, excitement, a little sex, lots of explosions... but then, those are the very reasons why none of you here would want to see this film, as those things are just appeals to the 'unwashed' masses...

 

[Michael Chris]

I loved the trailer (aside from the kid), and I'm looking forward to this film. I've gotten bored and tired with the Trek of past. It's just lame. I'm hoping this will be better, which given the credentials of the director it should be.

 

[Photoman15]

Two words:
Grow Up.

What you saw in the 1960's was the final result of the characters journey to being top-rate Star Fleet Officers. This movie will show how they got there. Shit happens. They didn't grow up in a perfect world, if they did, there'd be no conflict.

As for Kirk-Uhura and being co-crew members, Kirk is not a crew member of the Enterprise at many points in this movie, so there is no problem there.