Should they remake a classic episode as a future movie?

[TK421]

If we take the original 79 episodes as "literature", like Sherlock Holmes books, or James Bond stories, what would be the harm in remaking an episode as a full length feature?

I'm thinking episodes like Amok Time, City on the Edge of Forever, Devil in the Dark, The Doomsday Machine and Arena. The real classics.

The more I think about it, the more I love the idea.

It's a real risk, but what a pay-off if it succeeds.

 

[themanthebelly]

If the timeline is revised from the attack on the Kelvin then there's a lot of threats that the crew faced that will still "be out there," so to speak.

Khan will still be in status on the Botany Bay, the Planet Killer will still be on the loose, and, further a field, the Borg are still out there. I'm not saying reintroducing any of those into the new Trek timeline would be a good or a bad thing, but it's certainly food for thought.

 

[Opus]

I think that would be a great idea. I'd love to see the Gorn or Doomsday Machine redone. Or how about Balance of Terror or The Enterprise Incident?

 

[Qonos]

I think that would be a great idea. I'd love to see the Gorn or Doomsday Machine redone. Or how about Balance of Terror or The Enterprise Incident?

No those stories have been told and I can go back and watch them again. They were told right the first time, leave them be.

New stories set in this era would be great though. Maybe set in between the adventures we already saw.

 

[Lapis Exilis]

I think it's an awesome idea and definitely the way to go if things continue in the way of a movie series. It might be a good idea to mine the original stories the way you would the Arthurian legends. Like when Mallory pulled together all the existing tales from the previous centuries and wove them into a single narrative.

There are a couple of strong arcs. For Kirk WNMHGB - Gary Mitchell's transformation and what it did to him, The Enemy Within and what that taught him about his nature and sources of strength, CotEoF and the loss of Edith, The Doomsday Machine and the loss of Deckerd, Arena and Kirk's ability to be merciful, A Taste of Armageddon and his ability to come up with radical solutions. That arc would all be about Kirk as commander, the things that isolate him and forge him into Starfleet's most legendary captain.

Then there's Kirk and Spock's friendship/ Spock's arc. That'd be This Side of Paradise and Spock's dual nature, Devil in the Dark and his tremendous compassion, Space Seed and the confrontation with Khan (foreshadowing TWOK, though there'd really be no need to remake that), Amok Time and Journey to Babel (or at least some story illuminating Spock's troubled relationship with his parents).

Either of those could be done by pulling parts of episodes, making references to some events, and weaving other major events from the episodes into a narrative. Looking at it, there's maybe a trilogy in there with the friendship as the main emotional arc and Kirk and Spock's development into extraordinary figures as the main "adventure" plotline.

I'd kill to see a more involved Mirror, Mirror - but that has to have some built up investment in the characters, and should connect back into the main universe much more strongly.

 

[ManOnTheWave]

I'd rather not. I know what happened when Kirk fought with the Gorn. I'd rather see something new and worthy of an "event" movie.

 

[Shatterhand]

I'd rather not. I know what happened when Kirk fought with the Gorn. I'd rather see something new and worthy of an "event" movie.

I concur wholeheartedly. I don't need to see a remade episode. I want to see a grander, more epic story befitting a Star Trek movie. Don't get me wrong; the vast majority of TOS's episodes were excellent examples of storywriting, but we've already got too many people upset over Star Trek being reimagined in the first place.

 

[Ovation]

I think it's an awesome idea and definitely the way to go if things continue in the way of a movie series. It might be a good idea to mine the original stories the way you would the Arthurian legends. Like when Mallory pulled together all the existing tales from the previous centuries and wove them into a single narrative.

There are a couple of strong arcs. For Kirk WNMHGB - Gary Mitchell's transformation and what it did to him, The Enemy Within and what that taught him about his nature and sources of strength, CotEoF and the loss of Edith, The Doomsday Machine and the loss of Deckerd, Arena and Kirk's ability to be merciful, A Taste of Armageddon and his ability to come up with radical solutions. That arc would all be about Kirk as commander, the things that isolate him and forge him into Starfleet's most legendary captain.

Then there's Kirk and Spock's friendship/ Spock's arc. That'd be This Side of Paradise and Spock's dual nature, Devil in the Dark and his tremendous compassion, Space Seed and the confrontation with Khan (foreshadowing TWOK, though there'd really be no need to remake that), Amok Time and Journey to Babel (or at least some story illuminating Spock's troubled relationship with his parents).

Either of those could be done by pulling parts of episodes, making references to some events, and weaving other major events from the episodes into a narrative. Looking at it, there's maybe a trilogy in there with the friendship as the main emotional arc and Kirk and Spock's development into extraordinary figures as the main "adventure" plotline.

I'd kill to see a more involved Mirror, Mirror - but that has to have some built up investment in the characters, and should connect back into the main universe much more strongly.

Excellent ideas. (though I guess I have to turn in my "Trek fan" membership card as this would definitely be in the "raped my childhood" for some people ).

 

[shapeshifter]

I'd rather not. I know what happened when Kirk fought with the Gorn. I'd rather see something new and worthy of an "event" movie.

I concur wholeheartedly. I don't need to see a remade episode. I want to see a grander, more epic story befitting a Star Trek movie. Don't get me wrong; the vast majority of TOS's episodes were excellent examples of storywriting, but we've already got too many people upset over Star Trek being reimagined in the first place.

Thirded.

Not to take a crap on a good idea but I feel it would just be more re-hashing things we've seen before, we need new stories. These characters in new, big screen worthy tales is possible, assuming ST is the mega-hit we hope it becomes.

 

[TK421]

I think it's an awesome idea and definitely the way to go if things continue in the way of a movie series. It might be a good idea to mine the original stories the way you would the Arthurian legends. Like when Mallory pulled together all the existing tales from the previous centuries and wove them into a single narrative.

There are a couple of strong arcs. For Kirk WNMHGB - Gary Mitchell's transformation and what it did to him, The Enemy Within and what that taught him about his nature and sources of strength, CotEoF and the loss of Edith, The Doomsday Machine and the loss of Deckerd, Arena and Kirk's ability to be merciful, A Taste of Armageddon and his ability to come up with radical solutions. That arc would all be about Kirk as commander, the things that isolate him and forge him into Starfleet's most legendary captain.

Then there's Kirk and Spock's friendship/ Spock's arc. That'd be This Side of Paradise and Spock's dual nature, Devil in the Dark and his tremendous compassion, Space Seed and the confrontation with Khan (foreshadowing TWOK, though there'd really be no need to remake that), Amok Time and Journey to Babel (or at least some story illuminating Spock's troubled relationship with his parents).

Either of those could be done by pulling parts of episodes, making references to some events, and weaving other major events from the episodes into a narrative. Looking at it, there's maybe a trilogy in there with the friendship as the main emotional arc and Kirk and Spock's development into extraordinary figures as the main "adventure" plotline.

I'd kill to see a more involved Mirror, Mirror - but that has to have some built up investment in the characters, and should connect back into the main universe much more strongly.

Brilliant! Love your thoughts.

 

[OneBuckFilms]

Perhaps taking the crew to somewhere completely unknown, and have them face something never seen before.

Something that really and truly lives up to the "Strange New Worlds, new life forms and civilizations" on a citematic scale.

Give them a really epic puzzle to solve.

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

I'd rather have a brand new adventure that goes back to the "strange new worlds" part of Trek with a really challenging science-fiction adventure that culls its inspiration from LitSF rather than "action flicks."

 

[Franklin]

If we take the original 79 episodes as "literature", like Sherlock Holmes books, or James Bond stories, what would be the harm in remaking an episode as a full length feature?

I'm thinking episodes like Amok Time, City on the Edge of Forever, Devil in the Dark, The Doomsday Machine and Arena. The real classics.

The more I think about it, the more I love the idea.

It's a real risk, but what a pay-off if it succeeds.

Don't think it would work. Not sure why it would be done, either. Those are good stories. They also stand on their own merit.
Those episodes ran what, 53 minutes or so? Certainly they'd have to run longer for the movie screen. I'm not saying the general plot of a story couldn't be adapted to the big screen, but what would be the value in that? And, how does one get 40 or so more minutes out of any of them without completely losing the flow and theme of the original story?

 

[Dale]

No for two reasons:

1. I've already seen all the episodes. No need to retell those stories.

2. As evidenced by the last two TNG films, a movie should have a grander, more epic scope than an episode. Insurrection and Nemesis were just big, bloated episodes and they kind of stunk up the joint.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

No.

 

[Sector 7]

No for two reasons:

1. I've already seen all the episodes. No need to retell those stories.

2. As evidenced by the last two TNG films, a movie should have a grander, more epic scope than an episode. Insurrection and Nemesis were just big, bloated episodes and they kind of stunk up the joint.

Agreed. TV episodes on the big screen don't usually work well.
I want "to boldly go where no man/one has gone before" by trying to "seek out new life and new civilizations."

 

[Samuel T. Cogley]

I have no interest in this.

Unless Zoe Saldana will be nude for the entire movie.

 

[TK421]

No.

Yeah, but if JJ Abrams suddenly announced this you'd say you love it, so that's not evidence of much

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

No.

Yeah, but if JJ Abrams suddenly announced this you'd say you love it, so that's not evidence of much

Yeah, but only because I'm paid a great deal to do so.

 

[M'Sharak]

If we take the original 79 episodes as "literature", like Sherlock Holmes books, or James Bond stories, what would be the harm in remaking an episode as a full length feature?

I'm thinking episodes like Amok Time, City on the Edge of Forever, Devil in the Dark, The Doomsday Machine and Arena. The real classics.

The more I think about it, the more I love the idea.

It's a real risk, but what a pay-off if it succeeds.

You know, this is an interesting topic, but it isn't really about this movie. It's more of a Future of Trek subject, don't you think? I can suggest you restart it over there or I can move it for you, if you like.