Here it is - no bloody "A", "B" "C" or "D"
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Thanks for pointing out the differences for me. I like Vektor's design as well, but I would probably be satisfied with either one to tell you the truth.
Actually they have Aux control so you can lose the bridge crew. What I'm saying is that those elements have always taken me out of the thoughts that this could be a real space ship. Need a heat sink? Well how about a series of finlike plates like you would have on a radiator. Cut a groove into the bottom of the Nacelle housing and recess it there. It's protected but can still do it's job of bleeding heat into space. I like the fact that the Nacelle Pylons are bigger, but they still look flimsy. Then you have (what they were talking about on the New E) A gap between the deflector dish and the secondary hull..
I'm just showing that this Enterprise can be picked apart just as badly as the New one.
If they were women the Old E would be that awkard girl next door, and the new E is when you've come back home 7 years later and that awkward girl ends up being a hottie.
The new E is alot more visually pleasing to me (My opinion) than the old E was, but I could make the old E with my legos so it always has a place in my heart. I'm just not anally slavish to a ship that was most often than not just a vehicle for the main story. Just like I wasn't too stressed when they made BB a camaro.
My initial reaction is
WTF is that?
WTF is that?
you guys do realise you wont be able to edit the movie like this, when it appears in the cinema?More like this please...
LOL. That is true. But i do see where you guys are going with this, i really do.
Its growing on me though, i do actually like it the starnge way i like Uma Thurman. But as i said, this could always be a viral image designed, like the teaser, to throw everyone off. if so it could be changed for the release maybe. I could be wrong, i just dont know. But, we dont even know what enterprise this is, is it Pikes? or Kirks? is it the 24/25th century Enterprise that has been extensly modified over the past 100 years? maybe to be used by future Spock to go back in time? I could go on, but i dont know. we can only take certain peoples word for it to be honest.
Although, i have taken it into photoshop again and have been tweeking it for the past few hours now, its gone from this, my original colour change edit...
And after photoshopping for a while, ive ended up with this...:
Now its only a few slight changes, but i think i have improved the new design slightly.
Compare these two images, and tell me which looks more natural in the line of Enterprise Ships...
That's a pretty good point actually, the JJprise does seem to fit better. But it would be a better comparison if one could find an image of the TOSprise from a similar angle to the rest.
I still feel compelled to agree though. I... I can't believe it. Somebody on the internet actually managed to change my opinion. I must be going soft.
My big problem is that the nacells look as if the designer really didn't grasp the Star Trek aesthetic of /reactionless FTL/ drives.
These warp pods look as if they're trying to look like giant impressive thrusters. But that goes against Star Trek's idea of really advanced, paradigm-shifting science: warp fields and such.
Hate to say it, but for the moment, I do not like it. It does look as if it was designed by someone who doesn't get some of the basic premises of Star Trek. (Mind you, I say this as someone who also thinks Trek has needed a visual reboot. This just doesn't look like the right kind of reboot.)
These warp pods look as if they're trying to look like giant impressive thrusters. But that goes against Star Trek's idea of really advanced, paradigm-shifting science: warp fields and such.
Hate to say it, but for the moment, I do not like it. It does look as if it was designed by someone who doesn't get some of the basic premises of Star Trek. (Mind you, I say this as someone who also thinks Trek has needed a visual reboot. This just doesn't look like the right kind of reboot.)
^ I think they are thrusters, to get the big E from Earth's surface to orbit, then they are discarded, ala the space shuttle.
3D Master
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Ever considered the possibility that everything that is open to space NEEDS to be open to space, or the engines don't work?
Just saying.
That would be the other way around. The old E is an incredible beauty, along with grace and pure hotness, while the new E is if you return 7 years later and see a bloated, fat, with teeth fallen out, vision of pure ugliness that would make you scream and run away in terror.
I turned down a three-way with two other girls last Friday night. They were practically begging. Seriously.
And I'm still not thrilled with the new Enterprise.
So now what?
Two other girls?
Yeah, I worded that badly, didn't I?
I was trying to anticipate the jackasses who were going to imply that it was a three-way with two other guys.
Instead, I turned myself into a chick!
Maybe I am a chick!
Nah, if I was a chick, I wouldn't be here...
Yeah, that's cause my dad killed him, mother fucker!
Don't make me release my dad again! He's a pitbull. With lipstick!
You should have seen the two girls. They looked worse than Abrams' new Enterprise!
Well I think you can look at it two ways. First that this new design is something which works around the original design, OR you can imagine that this new design REPLACES the original in CANON. So the 60's TV Show was a low budget version of the new design.
Compare these two images, and tell me which looks more natural in the line of Enterprise Ships...
Thanks for doing this!
This actually has changed my mind.
Clearly the JJprise is a prequel to the TMPprise, with an aesthetic nod to the original show. As such, I think I buy into the vision.
I'm sold.
Um look at my next post after Ancient's about shields I design a new heat sink (If that's what those Pipes are and I'm beginning to think that's what they are since that's the only logical reason they'd be open to space. to vent heat from the plasma reaction in the warp core) which was more efficent (take a look at a base board electric or hot water radiator with the metal fins around a central element creating more surface area to radiate heat more efficently) But I also said to recess it in a groove which would leave the part exposed to space but also shelter it from fire. There is no reason to have big horking pipes ruining the lines of the ship other than that's how Jefferies designed it. Remember all that tech crap came a decade after the show went off the air. Or are you that dense that you don't realize that?
From Wiki.
The Star Trek Star Fleet Technical Manual (ISBN 0345340744, Ballantine Books 1975[, reprinted 1986, 1996, 2006) is a fiction reference book by Franz Joseph Schnaubelt about the workings of Starfleet, a military, exploratory, and diplomatic organization featured in the television series Star Trek.
Although it is fiction, the book is presented as a collection of factual documents sent from the future to the 20th century which describe the 23rd-century Starfleet.
The manual features noncanonical, detailed technical information about Starfleet's organization, vessels, and founding member states, and informed the strategy game Star Fleet Battles. When first published, the book's status as canon appeared beyond question[citation needed], despite its depiction of starship details which contradicted those seen on the television series; some of these included a second bridge exit; the briefing room's location and internal arrangement; and the expansion of starship transporter capability to encompass not only the established 6-pad rooms but also a 22-pad emergency and a high-capacity cargo transporter.
The manual presents a number of different starship designs beyond the Constitution class of the show's iconic flagship Enterprise. It diagrams the following classes.
- Federation-class dreadnought
- Constitution-class heavy cruiser
- Bonhomme Richard subtype
- Achernar subtype
- Saladin-class destroyer
- Hermes-class scout
- Ptolemy-class tug
Yeah even the guy who created the freaking thing couldn't make up his damn mind.
3D Master
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I don't give a damn what you think they are. If they are open to space, they have to be open to space, plain and simple.
you guys do realise you wont be able to edit the movie like this, when it appears in the cinema?More like this please...
Ofcourse thats what DVD are for
Watch the flood of "Star Trek XI" fan edits.
“Mark my words. It will not be six months before the fans edit "Star Trek XI" like they did "The Phantom Menace".
And there will be much sombreros!
Obviously they don't because they weren't on Subsequent vessels like the Refit Enterprise, The A, the excelsior. They were a design choice by Jefferies. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Stone_Cold_Sisko
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The new design is pretty good, but there is something sort of "generic" about it, as in a "generic star trek ship" the kinds you might find in the background of a DS9 battle or something.
I dunno, maybe because everything after TOS was done with a modern sensibility, but there is something really unique about the TOS ship, a certain symmetry to it thats sort of lost.
I dunno, maybe because everything after TOS was done with a modern sensibility, but there is something really unique about the TOS ship, a certain symmetry to it thats sort of lost.
I find it funny that some are debating about a ship that had no more signifigance in the TOS than the ship in "Fantastic Voyage" but has over time been elevated to the status of "Icon"
It started out as a generic cheap model on a string and now we're here. Amazing.
It started out as a generic cheap model on a string and now we're here. Amazing.
Um, the Enterprise is a Constitution class vessel as were 90 percent of the other federations ships we saw in TOS.. So keeping it generic is part of the idea. It's a class ship from a time when there were atleast a hundred other ships exactly like the Enterprise. This isn't like Next Gen where the D was one of only a few large Galaxy class ships built. The TOS Enterprise IS part of the main fleet and that fleet was composed of the same class of vessels.
It was never "generic" nor was it remotely "cheap." And neither the 3' nor the 11' models were ever suspended from a string.
Hey, did y ou see the cool new model of the P-38 that's going to be in a new WWII movie coming out in a few months?
http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2006/07/09/f35_wideweb__470x314,0.jpg
It's a real improvement over the "old fashioned" P-38, isn't it?
[It's not a P-38 and you hotlinked the image. Don't do that. - M']
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