The new Enterprise looks like the bastard child of the threesome between the Original Ent and the Refit and a fifties car.
Here it is - no bloody "A", "B" "C" or "D"
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What oddities? It looks like a legitimate secondary hull for a fictional 23rd Century starship to me, and on top of that nothing about it conflicts with previous Trek designs.
What? Neither is really better than the other, so I don't get how you can so easily dismiss it like that.
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Uh huh. Then how come you didn't say that to RAMA?
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No no no. When in doubt, spit it out. I mean, make it blue.
Seriously, the copper dish was way less gaudy than this. Hopefully they shut it off when they're not at warp.
I'm far from an optical expert, but where did the whole 'fisheye' thing come from? I saw someone mention it on trekmovie shortly after Ryan Church posted, but it was based on nothing factual there, anyway.
I just thought this was an unflattering angle of the new ship. Didn't think it was 'fisheyeish' at all. After all, what would be the point of even capturing such a shot?
I posted perhaps there might be some lens distortion, but I never thought was a fisheye lens.
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There are two thoughts on shooting miniatures. One is to use wide angle lenses to make the ships look bigger (at the expense of distortion); the other, the 2001 mode, is to use telephoto lenses and shoot from a ways back to capture a ship the way you'd capture it in reality.
Depending on the size of the model, either can work. There are close shots of the refit that don't work well because it isn't big enough (usually when looking down), but then again, that periscope lens shot of the nacelle as it leaves dock in tmp is FANTASTIC.
Depending on the size of the model, either can work. There are close shots of the refit that don't work well because it isn't big enough (usually when looking down), but then again, that periscope lens shot of the nacelle as it leaves dock in tmp is FANTASTIC.
True, very true. And in the sense of using a virtual camera on this CG model, I think that they are getting a distortion thats causing the front of the model (the saucer and the front of the secondary hull) to be pulled out and look larger, and the engines are being pushed back. In the orthos posted on other sites, the model seems much more balanced then is seen here.
I am not entirely certain if this has been posted, as I have not been able to keep up with this thread, but...
The main problem I have with this ship is that it just does not really fit with the TOS and Film E. I mean, the E was already refit once and it came out perfect because they just enlarged and stylized the ship in somewhat timeless way. The engineering section looks like a bad Photoshop mistake and the ship, itself looks to pushed together, very stumpy. It just looks clunky and chunky. There is just none of the aesthetic beauty that the other ships in that collage have.
You know, the design has actually started to grow on me slightly. I've been fiddling with the pic a little and will say this:
-It passes the squint test
-zoomed in, with the saucer out of the image, the secondary hull looks way better.
As such, I think the new ship may end up looking good at a distance and in extreme close-up. It's the middle-ground that looks wacky.
There are still a lot of nitpicks I have - things like the total lack of Starfleet symbols or stripes anywhere on the hull (Naked'prise).
-It passes the squint test
-zoomed in, with the saucer out of the image, the secondary hull looks way better.
As such, I think the new ship may end up looking good at a distance and in extreme close-up. It's the middle-ground that looks wacky.
There are still a lot of nitpicks I have - things like the total lack of Starfleet symbols or stripes anywhere on the hull (Naked'prise).
Now see, I am going to have to disagree with her looking clunky. The more I look at her, the more I like her, and she has some sleek lines to her. Of course the refit Enterprise is still perfection, but I believe this design has some merits of her own.
And to those wondering about hull markings. Perhaps this render was done with incomplete hull textures applied, and the markings have not been applied yet, other then some of the registry numbers.
And to those wondering about hull markings. Perhaps this render was done with incomplete hull textures applied, and the markings have not been applied yet, other then some of the registry numbers.
Why couldn't they have just gone with the original design, like they did in "In A Mirror Darkly".
They probably didn't want audiences laughing out of the theater.
Well its subjective, but based on the collection of photo's I would have to say that I like the new Constitution class better than the NX-01 class, Excelsior class, Ambassador Class, and maybe even the Galaxy class.
Edit: and oh yeah the Sovereign class for sure.
Edit: and oh yeah the Sovereign class for sure.
I don't get that statement at all. All of those, IMHO, kick the new one's ass.
The NX-01 wouldn't only because it has older tech in it the other ones though i could see blowing the heck out of this version of the 1701, not because they look better, but because they are all from more advanced eras.. Like sending a man with a wooden shield and a sword up against a guy in armor with a pike.. The more advanced tech would win out.
That reminds me of the Star Trek: Unlimited comic An Inifinite Jest...
Everybody has such strong opinions one way or the other. I hate to say this but -- it basically looks the same as the '80s movies. It seems like a pretty safe redesign, considering what the interiors look like. I was expecting it to be more different.
In brief: (1) Not blown away. (2) Can't complain.
In brief: (1) Not blown away. (2) Can't complain.
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