Good Will Riker
Admiral
Actually, Barack Obama is "with it" when it comes to the culture of our times, because he grew up with the pop cultural things that you and I are into.
Is Obama good for Star Trek?
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The TNG DVDs mention that Colin Powell visited the TNG set during the series' run!
Rush Limbaugh noted that Joe Biden reminded him of a Klingon during the VP-debate. In another episode, when the subject somehow went to black holes, he noted the the only thing known to survive a black hole was the Enterprise ("Tomorrow is Yesterday").
Hmm...Trekkers on ALL sides o' the aisle. Cool!
Rush Limbaugh noted that Joe Biden reminded him of a Klingon during the VP-debate. In another episode, when the subject somehow went to black holes, he noted the the only thing known to survive a black hole was the Enterprise ("Tomorrow is Yesterday").
Hmm...Trekkers on ALL sides o' the aisle. Cool!
From Webster's Dictionary:
Main Entry:Af·ri·ca
Pronunciation: \ˈa-fri-kə also ˈä-\ Function:geographical name continent of the eastern hemisphere S of the Mediterranean & adjoining Asia on NE area 11,677,239 square miles (30,244,049 square kilometers) I wrote a post elsewhere to the same effect. Rush, we have to stop agreeing like this... people will start to talk.
Good Will Riker
Admiral
Ha ha ha ha ha!!!!
I meant to say "...who thought Africa was a country when it actually is a continent..."
Y'know, our last few presidents included: a cowboy, a pimp, and an actor. It's about damn time we had a nerd in the White House!
I wrote a post elsewhere to the same effect. Rush, we have to stop agreeing like this... people will start to talk.
I knew it: you two are in cahoots... mebbe knockin' boots.
Sidebar: I wouldn't use the word "blatant" there, but "topical" when it came to addressing the current events and social issues of the day in an allegorical matter on TOS. ENT, by contrast, debuted as vapid entertainment of the lowest common denominator.
You have got to be kidding me?
When all major network TV shows and feature films to debut and return in the fall of 2001 acknowledged and paid tribute to the recent 9/11 tragedy, UPN's "Enterprise" backed away from even acknowledging it in a title card when it debuted only 2 weeks after September 11th, 2001, when even the producers of Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home had the good sense to acknowledge the passing of the 7 American astronauts aboard the space shuttle Challenger back in 1986.
It took "Enterprise" 20 months to debut an allegorical episode on the tragedy of 9/11 with its second season finale, when all other networks had been paying homage to and covering news continuously beyond the aftermath of the grave tragedy for 9 months straight, because UPN did not want to court controversy.
UPN dropped the ball on embracing the tragedy of 9/11, because the network did not want to court controversy.
Shame on you UPN and your cowardice.
Let's see... about my use of the word "blatant" in regards to TOS' allegorical tales: "A Private Little War" was obviously about Vietnam. "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield" was obviously about the foolishness of racism. (The only ones watching that didn't get it were the network censors.) Star Trek allegories have become much more subtle over time, for the most part.
As for 9/11 and its impact on "Enterprise" - I wasn't talking about the events of "The Expanse" and the changes in season three. I was talking about the deliberate attempts of the producers and writers early on to avoid referencing 9/11 in any way, subtle or not. Unlike many other shows of that time that made references or changes to reflect the tragedy ("The West Wing" comes to mind with its 'very special episode'), the "Enterprise" producers made a conscious choice to go on as if nothing happened. So 9/11 did have an impact on the show, and unfortunately it didn't make it any better. As for season three, it was two years too late.
"Cowardice" is the correct word here. "Enterprise" had a chance to make Star Trek socially relevant again, and I agree, UPN dropped the ball.
Let's not forget that dang peanut farmer....
Rush, we have to stop agreeing like this... people will start to talk.
Aw, come now. Ol' Barry supposed to bring change, eh?
Now, if only Thrawn and Trent Roman would start to agree with yours truly....
(amid great applause) That's the change we need!
I knew it: you two are in cahoots... mebbe knockin' boots.
Nah....
Just words! (applause and cheers) Just speaches!
As I have said, the Brethren can come together--YES WE CAN....
(as applause and cheers get louder) We can look beyond our differences--YES WE CAN....
We CAN join together--hand in hand--and bring to realization--the true Spirit of IDIC--the true Spirit of Hope--the TRUE...Spirit...of The Final Frontier!
(cheers and applause reach crescendo) YES...WE...CAAAAAAAANNNNNNN!!!
(Babe in back row faints
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I don't think Obama matters in the context of Star Trek.
Neither good nor bad.
All that matters is the writing and marketing.
That's what will decide how well Star Trek performs.
Neither good nor bad.
All that matters is the writing and marketing.
That's what will decide how well Star Trek performs.
I'll be real with you: when I think of a peanut farmer, I think of the nerd category. It ain't fair, I know, but that's me
I knew it: you two are in cahoots... mebbe knockin' boots.
Heck, I think *I'm* close to fainting, you magnificent bi-partisan dreamboat you....
Just words! (applause and cheers) Just speaches!
As I have said, the Brethren can come together--YES WE CAN....
(as applause and cheers get louder) We can look beyond our differences--YES WE CAN....
We CAN join together--hand in hand--and bring to realization--the true Spirit of IDIC--the true Spirit of Hope--the TRUE...Spirit...of The Final Frontier!
(cheers and applause reach crescendo) YES...WE...CAAAAAAAANNNNNNN!!!
(Babe in back row faints
Ah...ha....
Now...if ol' Barry was dead serious about cutting back on NASA...frankly, we might have to wait a while....
Look, I seriously doubt than any honest, authentic, REAL Star Trek fan would cut back on NASA...especially with the new Lunar and Martian missions on the agenda.
BTW, anyone notice how, with the exception of Kennedy, it's usually the REPUBLICANS who support NASA?
Ike was the one who started NASA in the first place. And for that...I LIKE IKE!
Nixon was President during the Apollos, whereas during Johnson, NASA was just doin' a lot of preparing....
During Ford, the Shuttles kicked off...and wasn't it Ford that christened the prototype...Enterprise?
Reagan gave the ISS (originaly called "Freedom") the green light.
And Bush....
Love 'em or hate 'em, HE was the one who kept the Columbia tragedy from spiraling down into another Challenger-type aftermath. Bush was the one who gave NASA it's new agenda. It was Bush who gave Project Constellation the green light.
And I'll always thank him for that.
Ahem... taking the party politics out of it, the only president who's been genuinely suportive of NASA so far is Johnson, with Nixon coming a close second (despite generally getting the blame for the curtailment of Apollo).
Eisenhower didn't want a manned space programme at all, authorized Mercury as a one-off, and established NASA for two reasons - so that spaceflight wouldn't become quite so much a part of the 'military-industrial' he was starting to warn against (yes, I know, ironic in view of the shuttle becoming 'a vast jobs creation scheme for NASA), and so that he seemed to be doing something about the 'missile gap' he was being attacked over, without giving away to the Soviet Union the existence of the U2 flights and the first spy satellites that had convinced him it didn't actually exist.
Kennedy wanted a big techological project where he could prove the USA's superiority over the Soviet Union, and went for the Moon Landing as it was the best option his advisors could offer. It was a political move, and it'd be interesting to know if he'd have stuck with it if budgets got squeezed by Vietnam in his second term.
Whereas... Johnson was a big space enthusiast (even before he got Mission Control moved to his state), pushed Kennedy towards the Moon commitment, and kept the funding going by using the 'Kennedy legacy' as a lever against congress. Definitely the most pro-space President.
Nixon gets blamed for curtailing Apollo in favour of the shuttle (without a station for it to shuttle to), but does seem to have been very pro-space back to the late 1950s, and perhaps should get credit for there being anything after Apollo at all... (As Casper Wienberger noted while serving in the Nixon administration, 'the sad fact is that we have to cut NASA not because it deserves to be cut, but because it's the only thing we can cut').
Whereas Ford did nothing to stop congress cheese-slicing the NASA budget, with consequent delays and design compromises to the shuttle. Though he did give in to Trek fans and order NASA to rename Constitution as Enterprise (ironic really.. if they'd just held off the campaign till the second shuttle, it'd have been Enterprise that was first into orbit...).
Similarly, Carter didn't do anything for NASA, and his Veep Mondale is one of the most notoriously anti-space politicians of the last 50 years (check out his behaviour after Apollo 1).
Reagan... well, he did finally give the Ok for a space station in 1984, but never really put himself behind getting the money to actuall build it. And he gave a good speech after the Challenger loss.
Bush (I) gave a good speech (by his standards) about a return to the Moon at the 20th anniversary of Apollo 11. That's 19 years ago. Anything built and flying yet?
Clinton carried on the tradition of asking NASA to do more for less, while letting congress force NASA into redesign studies that ended up costing more than they saved.
And Bush... yep, he Oked Project Constellation. Which is already running into major technical troubles which mean it'll definitely not fly on time, if at all. Gee, just like his dad...
It's a sorry run-down across both parties. Only LBJ was really pro-manned spaceflight, with Nixon and Kennedy maybe getting a fairly honorable mention.
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Ya forgot: I'm also a harmless, lovable li'll tribble....
(Cooooooooo...coooooooooo...--Peep--peep--PEEP...coooooooooooo)
Excuse me? I have not read through every post in this thread to see if you caught your own ignorance but the alleged fault was just the opposite if it is even true at all! Supposedly she thought Africa was a "country" and not as you say a "continent" (since Africa is a continent and not a country she was wrong but so are you Good Will Riker! Guess you would never qualify as a possible VP either!!). It shows that you may be blinded by your own predjudices to make such a statement. And no I am not one of her supporters but I hate misrepresentation and you have your own agenda to promote and seem willing to say whatever to get that across.
Kevin
"Ah, lemme state this foah the recuhd, foah all America t' hear: Ah nevuh had sexu'l relations with that wuh-man, with Miss Lewinsky. Ah only saw huh once oh twahce....
And as foah Paula, whah did she knock me unduh lahk that? Ah wuz th' best thing that happened in huh lahf, and that's all there is to it, and how does she thank me? Bah goin' all public on me?
Oh, ah feeeeeeeeeeeeeel mah paiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiin, ah really dooooooooooooo...."
I tell ya, Clinton has issues....
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/11/obamas-dressed-down-look_n_142918.html
To lend further credence to the "Obama Is A Nerd, Hurray" idea. Besides, it's a fun article.
Oh, and Rush: is that your Clinton or your Scarlet O'Hara? I ask because I now have an image of Bill in a big puffy dress.
To lend further credence to the "Obama Is A Nerd, Hurray" idea. Besides, it's a fun article.
Oh, and Rush: is that your Clinton or your Scarlet O'Hara? I ask because I now have an image of Bill in a big puffy dress.
Bold above for emphasis.
I don't know where this is coming from, but I do not appreciate being misquoted. Please preview or review your posts before making them permanent.
I would never take the name of my Lord and Savior in vain. In over 1300 posts, I have never done this. It violates my personal beliefs to do so. Please be careful with your quotes. Thank you.
I am not now, nor have I ever had sex with Rush Limborg. On advice of counsel, I am invoking executive privilege in refusing to answer further questions pertaining to this matter.
The biggest difference between Obama and most nerds... he's gettin' some on a regular basis!
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I dont directly think Obama coming in will affect star trek. The only way that the franchise can be re-born (for want of a better word), is if the new movie draws non star trek fan into it. This film as far as i can see is being done to test whether the world still wants star trek or whether the world has moved on and left star trek behind.
I dont know much abaout the abrahams guy but from what i can see he seems very keen to give trek a new lease of life. lets just hope his vision catches the trekkies and non trekkies imagination alike.
I dont know much abaout the abrahams guy but from what i can see he seems very keen to give trek a new lease of life. lets just hope his vision catches the trekkies and non trekkies imagination alike.
I think I made a polite request to be more careful. I also gave the reason for the request. No apology was requested, just asking folks to be careful next time.
I could have said some crap like "I hate you all for misquoting me... go to hell!", but that would make me a hypocrite. I can't do that. Thanks anyone for understanding.