Star Trek covers EW

[Samuel T. Cogley]

Oh, who am I kidding. He's the easy target to mock. Have at it.

My point -- and all my posts on the subject which have been designed to have the opposite effect -- is that the cheapshot is the easy way out, and I know that people (Dennis, anyway) is better than that.

I'll assume your clarification was meant to clear that up for those who were unable to understand my previous posts.

 

[anais]

Is it just me or... the 'view-screen' seems so reflective that it looks more like a window...?

It does look like a window - maybe it doubles up as a window when the viewscreen's off. If it is a viewscreen at all.

 

[Tom Servo]

Is it just me or... the 'view-screen' seems so reflective that it looks more like a window...?

Seeing that photo...I wonder if the viewscreen is a window, and the information is projected up on the screen like a HUD. That would be actually quite interesting.

I am actually quite excited to see the interface design for this movie. It looks so far like nothing we have ever seen before.

 

[ST-One]

Those were my thoughts too.
It would be great.

 

[Captain X]

Could we see soem links for those quotes where members of the writing or production staff have referred to the movie as a reboot? I'd like to share it with some other people on another board.

 

[Jon1701]

The burden is on you to prove that he did use the term reboot.

Dude, let it go.

Whether he says it or not makes no difference.

The only thing the matters is whether you go to see the movie or not. You've said several times that you will not. The rest of us are prepared to give up our money, we are prepared to take that chance.

If we are wrong, then so be it.

You are fighting a cause that, whether right or wrong, no-one else supports.

We are all going to see this movie, at this point - nothing we say will affect this movie. Its done. Its been shot. Its in the can.

Let it go.

You said Orci has referred to this movie as a reboot.
I will be more then happy to be proven wrong about this, if you'd just provide a source.
I never once heard that he did say that.

I never said anything of the sort.

I merely asked the question of whether is mattered or not. I also asked you this question earlier - and you didn't answer it then.

MattJC does, in fairness, have a legitimate question. Why can't the movie-makers just come flat out and say it is or isn't a reboot? I mean, at least visually, it is. Whether other elements will adhere to canon remains to be seen.

But what would be gained?

What's the point of alienating part of your target audience now?

Why not leave it up to the audience to decide?

Can't we have this discussion after the movie comes out? Maybe it is a reboot, maybe it isn't? I don't think it's going to be that clear cut. The thing is Matt, most of us don't actually care. We are just excited that a new Star Trek movie is coming out. We don't care whether some stuff conflicts with other stuff that some guy wrote 40 years ago.

We just want a Star Trek movie with its heart and soul in the right place. With Kirk, Spock and Bones. With Klingons on the starboard bow, with neck pinches, three sliders on the transporter, a swoosh when the doors open and possibly a plot involving a machine controlled society that is either a child, a god or both*

You don't want to see this movie? Fine, but the rest of us are going to give this thing a chance. It deserves that at least.

 

[Qonos]

Are you fucking dense?
What about this goddamn picture doesn't say "reboot" to you?
Abrams and his pals are too damn chickenshit to just admit it.
No, they think they are so clever trying to fool longtime Trek fans into thinking it's not a remake or whatever with BS like "alternate timelines" and crap.
They should grow some balls and just say so.
Don't try to bullshit us.

Um Orci said this is a hybrid Reboot/prequel hybrid over at donmurphy.net...
You're such a Hedgehog (only Murphyites would get that)

Where is the exact quote?

Listen, little man. How long have you been doing this. I've been very nice to you and reading this thread you've been trolling. GO over to donmurphy.net and read the ASK ROBERT ORCI thread... As I had to sit and read this mess you created it's only fair that you wallow for your research. Trek is the spirit of the story, not the outdated visual look of the television show. That's why it was able to trancend into Movies and four spin off television shows.

The Movie is a Reboot/Prequel Hybrid, this has been known by the people over at donmurphy's board since august when we ACTUALLY ASKED THE WRITER ABOUT IT. I don't need to quote him to you this isn't a court case. And if you go over there with that attitude, like you're owed something nobody is going to answer you anyway...

For M.
Hedgehog is one Reginald Clinton Brown... Who made fame by actually being an extra on TF2 and getting kicked off the set by trying to "Learn Bay some Transformers" He was pretty much the same type of overzealous Fanatic that Matt is being over the dumbest things you could be a zealot about and it got him ostrisized and shunned. Wasn't really and insult, more of a warning because I really don't want to see Matt become like Reggie...

 

[Samuel T. Cogley]

I don't need to quote him to you this isn't a court case.

I can certainly help you turn it into one.

 

[PKTrekGirl]

Um Orci said this is a hybrid Reboot/prequel hybrid over at donmurphy.net...
You're such a Hedgehog (only Murphyites would get that)

Where is the exact quote?

Listen, little man. How long have you been doing this. I've been very nice to you and reading this thread you've been trolling. GO over to donmurphy.net and read the ASK ROBERT ORCI thread... As I had to sit and read this mess you created it's only fair that you wallow for your research. Trek is the spirit of the story, not the outdated visual look of the television show. That's why it was able to trancend into Movies and four spin off television shows.

The Movie is a Reboot/Prequel Hybrid, this has been known by the people over at donmurphy's board since august when we ACTUALLY ASKED THE WRITER ABOUT IT. I don't need to quote him to you this isn't a court case. And if you go over there with that attitude, like you're owed something nobody is going to answer you anyway...

For M.
Hedgehog is one Reginald Clinton Brown... Who made fame by actually being an extra on TF2 and getting kicked off the set by trying to "Learn Bay some Transformers" He was pretty much the same type of overzealous Fanatic that Matt is being over the dumbest things you could be a zealot about and it got him ostrisized and shunned. Wasn't really and insult, more of a warning because I really don't want to see Matt become like Reggie...

Okay. That is enough of this - on both/all sides.

You guys need to knock this off, like NOW.

MattJC - go look it up for yourself. And stop stirring up this forum with the 'reboot' discussion. It's WAY past old. It is that smelly green thing in the back of the refrigerator, and it stinks.

Everyone else - leave him alone. Put him on ignore. Whatever you have to do.

If this continues, the warnings will begin, and everyone involved will get to 'participate'.

 

[Herkimer Jitty]

I don't need to quote him to you this isn't a court case.

I can certainly help you turn it into one.

This is true. Cogley is the most qualified Internet Attorney there is. He's the man who invented the Sombrero Defense, after all.

 

[MattJC]

That's from the most rescent EW article. Orci also used the word "reboot" a while back to describe the new look.

I ask again.
Where did he say this?

Edit: I'm sorry, Jack. I confused you with ancient.
Still, the question stands.

 

[MattJC]

MattJC does, in fairness, have a legitimate question. Why can't the movie-makers just come flat out and say it is or isn't a reboot? I mean, at least visually, it is. Whether other elements will adhere to canon remains to be seen.

But what would be gained?

What's the point of alienating part of your target audience now?

Why not leave it up to the audience to decide?

It matters to me because they are telling Trek fans one thing and the general audience another.

 

[PKTrekGirl]

That's from the most rescent EW article. Orci also used the word "reboot" a while back to describe the new look.

I ask again.
Where did he say this?

Edit: I'm sorry, Jack. I confused you with ancient.
Still, the question stands.

No. The question does NOT stand.

We are done with this discussion, like NOW.

Continue and get warned.

 

[ST-One]

MattJC does, in fairness, have a legitimate question. Why can't the movie-makers just come flat out and say it is or isn't a reboot? I mean, at least visually, it is. Whether other elements will adhere to canon remains to be seen.

But what would be gained?

What's the point of alienating part of your target audience now?

Why not leave it up to the audience to decide?

It matters to me because they are telling Trek fans one thing and the general audience another.

Well, since you do not consider this movie to be Trek, this doesn't concern you anymore.

So long.

 

[JuanBolio]

MattJC does, in fairness, have a legitimate question. Why can't the movie-makers just come flat out and say it is or isn't a reboot? I mean, at least visually, it is. Whether other elements will adhere to canon remains to be seen.

But what would be gained?

What's the point of alienating part of your target audience now?

Why not leave it up to the audience to decide?

It matters to me because they are telling Trek fans one thing and the general audience another.

I never got them impression, at any point, that I was being deceived. I knew from the get-go that this movie would be different visually. It isn't a big deal and has little or nothing to do with canon.

 

[JD]

EDIT: Never mind, it was part of the Reboot debate, and we've been told to stop. If you want to see the quote I found I will post it, but I'll hold off because I don't want to get the thread locked or anything.

For anyone interested, it mentions in the EW article that

Kirk spends much of Star Trek dressed in respectable black — space-cadet colors in Abrams' Trekverse — as he undertakes a perilous, destiny-seeking journey.

 

[Samuel T. Cogley]

I've got this big stone in my hand and I just can't figure out who to throw it at.

A little help here?

 

[Qonos]

MattJC does, in fairness, have a legitimate question. Why can't the movie-makers just come flat out and say it is or isn't a reboot? I mean, at least visually, it is. Whether other elements will adhere to canon remains to be seen.

But what would be gained?

What's the point of alienating part of your target audience now?

Why not leave it up to the audience to decide?

It matters to me because they are telling Trek fans one thing and the general audience another.

It didn't matter in 07 with Transformers, and It doesn't matter now with Trek, both of which needed the infusion of fresh ideas to make/keep them viable properties. I for one do not want to see something I love, like Star Trek die because of hang ups on small minutia when all that matters is the spirit of the idea, the story, and the intent of it's creator.

That intent, to show humans working together and with other races to make a better future.. Isn't that what TREK is or am I the one who's wrong here.

My final words on this because I don't need to get a warning on my first day here is that if the set design is such a hang up for you, then you've forgotten what Star Trek is really about. I've pointed you where to go. They quoted an article where PARAMOUNT said this movie is a reboot of the franchise and they are the ones who own it franchise so you have your answer, you need nothing more. I'm sorry this movie isn't for you, but maybe Star Trek is trying to do something it hasn't done for a while. Evolve. I submit that to you humbly and I'm am sorry about getting aggravated with you earlier Matt.

 

[MattJC]

It matters to me because they are telling Trek fans one thing and the general audience another.

It didn't matter in 07 with Transformers, and It doesn't matter now with Trek, both of which needed the infusion of fresh ideas to make/keep them viable properties. I for one do not want to see something I love, like Star Trek die because of hang ups on small minutia when all that matters is the spirit of the idea, the story, and the intent of it's creator.

That intent, to show humans working together and with other races to make a better future.. Isn't that what TREK is or am I the one who's wrong here.

My final words on this because I don't need to get a warning on my first day here is that if the set design is such a hang up for you, then you've forgotten what Star Trek is really about. I've pointed you where to go. They quoted an article where PARAMOUNT said this movie is a reboot of the franchise and they are the ones who own it franchise so you have your answer, you need nothing more. I'm sorry this movie isn't for you, but maybe Star Trek is trying to do something it hasn't done for a while. Evolve. I submit that to you humbly and I'm am sorry about getting aggravated with you earlier Matt.

I went to DonMurphy.Net and found that Orci is a registered user on there, but it won't show me his posts.
Don't tell me I need register there to see them?

 

[Tyberius]

That's from the most rescent EW article. Orci also used the word "reboot" a while back to describe the new look.

I ask again.
Where did he say this?

I don't believe Orci himself has said "reboot" but interviewers have said it and wrote about it in connection with the interview.

It is a reboot as much as Casino Royal or Batman Begins is a reboot.