We are so screwed....
OMG first shot of the new bridge!!!
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Speak for yourself.
Are we looking at the same picture!?!
structurally close? as in it has walls, floor and a ceiling? And chairs, it has at least three chairs.It looks more like an operating room. the lights are overly bright and mounted right at eye level where they would be in your face all day. <sarcasm>Yes, this is a great environment!</sarcasm>
Well, lessee....here's the original bridge....
And here's the new and, allegedly, improved one...
Oh, yeah, they're virtually identical.
What flavor Kool-Aid is JJ serving these days?
And here's the new and, allegedly, improved one...
Oh, yeah, they're virtually identical.
What flavor Kool-Aid is JJ serving these days?
doubleohfive
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You guys are jumping the gun and being way too judgmental and pessimistic. Wait till you see the movie, then decide if you like the bridge or not.
Nope. Deal me out, I ain't playin'
Also according to MTV, that's not Kirk's duty uniform.
Looks like we're looking towards the back of the bridge with possibly a two lift configuration, but not sold on that stand-alone console...
I can live with it. I might even grow to like it. Definitely not the Star Trek we're used to. On balance, I think thats a good thing.
Looks like we're looking towards the back of the bridge with possibly a two lift configuration, but not sold on that stand-alone console...
I can live with it. I might even grow to like it. Definitely not the Star Trek we're used to. On balance, I think thats a good thing.
* shrugs * You never know. I was fairly skeptical of a lot of the designs for Transformers, mainly cause I felt many of the robot modes looked too busy (too many vehicle parts hanging off), but I was impressed to see that they were animated pretty well in the film itself.
Deal me in, I'm playin'! I'm looking for some good story telling and this first generation Trek fan is willing to give Abrams some slack. I ceased being a stick-in-the-mud trekker a long time ago. Substance before style!
Are we looking at the same picture!?!
It looks more like an operating room. the lights are overly bright and mounted right at eye level where they would be in your face all day. <sarcasm>Yes, this is a great environment!</sarcasm>
Yes we are looking at the EXACT same picture. You remove the glass panels and the yeoman's station, then the bridges follow pretty much the same blueprint, except the fact that the new bridge is spread out a bit more.
Don't be a stickler. This was the Enterprise when she was first launched - there could've been all kinds of upgrades between then and TOS, including a total bridge module swap-out. Give it a chance for what it is, rather then condemn it because its not what you wanted it to be. There's a lot more to a movie than set design anyway. I for one think it could be very cool. The only thing I don't love so much is the plexiglass HUDs or whatever they are, but maybe they'll work out to be cool.
If you look closely at the screens in the background, '1701' is clearly visable. And I doubt the Kobayashi Maru simulator would, in this era, be made up to resemble the newly launched, active-duty Enterprise.
I have to admit I am disappointed with this design. I am not fussed that they changed things and did not stick to the original. No one really expected that they would and I think most agreed that they should make changes in order to update the look. In my opinion, they could have done something completely new, as long as they made it look recognisable.
What they have done here, however, shows little respect for the general design ethos of Star Trek (not just TOS). The bridge is way too busy and over the top, it looks like a caricature, like a spoof.
Star Trek as a universe always took itself seriously. Its part of what Star Trek is. Making fun of its self or its sci fi setting is incompatible with the concept of Trek.
In the other thread Vector suggested that visual aspects like contrast, brightness and colour might still be readjusted until the film is released. However, for it to lose the parody effect they would have to tone it down drastically and it would still be too clunky and cluttered.
What they have done here, however, shows little respect for the general design ethos of Star Trek (not just TOS). The bridge is way too busy and over the top, it looks like a caricature, like a spoof.
Star Trek as a universe always took itself seriously. Its part of what Star Trek is. Making fun of its self or its sci fi setting is incompatible with the concept of Trek.
In the other thread Vector suggested that visual aspects like contrast, brightness and colour might still be readjusted until the film is released. However, for it to lose the parody effect they would have to tone it down drastically and it would still be too clunky and cluttered.
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Well, for one thing, the bridge might look better once we have a better idea how the parts relate to each other.
We might also see changes to the layout during the film that makes us go, "Oh! That's what they're doing!"
And the story and acting might be so good that at the end of it, minor nits with the bridge just don't matter.
But right now ... I only like the captain's chair and the workstation overhead monitors.
I don't wish to be mistaken for a member of the Trek XI Pollyanna Club, but sometimes a still image can fail to capture a live scene. Motion can make a difference. I'm not saying it will, but it could.
Marian
I've gotta disagree, friend. Its a huge starship with multiple missions and a crew of hundreds, capable of doing amazing things that defy the laws of physics as we understand them today. The control center is going to be a busy place. Nothing about it looks spoofish to me - it all looks very organized and functional, if very sleek and advanced.
We're not screwed. This just affirms what I've believed all along. Yes, this is a restart or reboot or whatever the hell anyone wants to call it. Only some familiar names and references remain, but this is difinately not the continuity of TOS. And that's fine as long as they're honest about. And even if they're not--just as they weren't with ENT--then it doesn't change a thing in my book and just reinforces my belief they think fans are imbeciles.Well, lessee....here's the original bridge....
And here's the new and, allegedly, improved one...
Oh, yeah, they're virtually identical.
What flavor Kool-Aid is JJ serving these days?
In regards to the "new" set: while I can see individual elements that are interesting this is just looks too busy and doesn't work for me. There also look to be too many lights that are there just for the sake of style and don't convey any real sense of function. I'd have to see more of the set, but it seems to lack a sense of integrity of design. That table just looks stupid there, like there should be bar drinks on it it. But you could argue that it's consistent with the shots of the ship in construction we've seen so far.
This makes me think of someone(s) taking the basic TOS bridge concept and jazzing it up with all the current trends we've been seeing in sci-fi hardware for decades. Look back to the refit bridge in TMP: That was essentially the basic TOS concept updated to a more modern and more convincingly futuristic look. But then you could rationalize the TMP sets within TOS' continuity since they followed a similar mindset in approach to design.
This new look effectively jettisons any common conceptual approach with TOS. And that's okay as long as they're upfront about it. Just don't anyone stand there and blatantly assert this is the same ship because then you are drinking some freaking weird Kool-Aid.
The skirt uniform looks a more credible length and I do like the colour of the uniforms, but that's it.
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