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Holy S*** Moments in DS9?
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The vedek committing suicide on the promenade in Rocks & Shoals.
The revelation that O'Brien isn't who we think he is in Whispers.
The revelation that O'Brien isn't who we think he is in Whispers.
1. The end of "In the Pale Moonlight."
2. The death of Damar in WYLB.
3. The revelation that Gowron was a changeling at the end of Season 4 (turns out he wasn't but what a WTF moment it was....)
2. The death of Damar in WYLB.
3. The revelation that Gowron was a changeling at the end of Season 4 (turns out he wasn't but what a WTF moment it was....)
Sacrifice of Angels.... Defiant emerges victorious from the wormhole... Dukat loses it.. haha!
Damar declares rebellion in Changing Face of Evil!
....... meh... Dukat is still the best holy shit moment when he escorts the Dominion fleet to Cardassia.
Damar declares rebellion in Changing Face of Evil!
....... meh... Dukat is still the best holy shit moment when he escorts the Dominion fleet to Cardassia.
Yes, it's so un-Star Trek that it's great Star Trek. It's one of the things that make DS9 the best.My holy shit moment of all time has got to be in Sacrifice of Angels when Kira and Rom tried to stop Damar from taking down the minefield - and FAILED!WTF, they can't FAIL!
My fav' "Holy S***": (Sisko's face) when Jake appears, being possessed by an evil Bajoran god.
Many great ones have already been mentioned: The destruction of the Odyssey, the introduction of the Defiant, the destruction of the joint Cardassian/Romulan fleet, DS9's sheer firepower come season 4, Odo killing one of his own, Martok as a Changeling, how bad "Let He Who is Without Sin" was, Bashir as a Changeling, Dukat turning on Sisko and crew, Starfleet giving up DS9, the Vedek committing suicide, the battle to retake DS9, Dukat spiraling into madness, basically all of ITPM, Dax's death (though it could have been handled better), the assassination attempt on Sisko, Nog losing his leg as well as "The Siege of AR-558" as a whole, Ross's actions in "Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges", the amazing development Damar went through, the unlikely alliance between Damar and Kira / Starfleet, seeing Dukat walk the corridors of DS9 undetected, and lots of other terrific stuff in the final arc.
To this I would add one element from "Emissary" that didn't awe me first time around because I didn't really understand what it meant. The Prophets reveal to Sisko that his existence is by no means linear. He's never really moved on from that point in time where he lost Jennifer.
It wasn't until a few years ago that I really understood what that meant, what they were saying, and that people can in fact live that way. They may age, their bodies may age but they don't move on inside and keep coming back to that defining moment.
It can be very, very hard to move away from that. For me, re-watching "Emissary" and understanding that, really, for the first time was startling and very powerful
To this I would add one element from "Emissary" that didn't awe me first time around because I didn't really understand what it meant. The Prophets reveal to Sisko that his existence is by no means linear. He's never really moved on from that point in time where he lost Jennifer.
It wasn't until a few years ago that I really understood what that meant, what they were saying, and that people can in fact live that way. They may age, their bodies may age but they don't move on inside and keep coming back to that defining moment.
It can be very, very hard to move away from that. For me, re-watching "Emissary" and understanding that, really, for the first time was startling and very powerful
I think the most "Holy Shit!" moment of DS9 for me would have to be "In the Pale Moonlight" which, still my favorite episode of all of Star Trek after all these years, really just totally turned the entire Star Trek universe on it's head. The quote from Sisko, which I've memorized, just sums it up...
A Starfleet captain, a hero, saying such... it just changed everything. It was the first real evidence of ultimate humanity. The first chink in the shining Utopian armor that, deep down, truly truly deep down, some element of the human race remains unchanged. Remains dark. Even if it's only a sliver. It exists within the best of us, even if only for the ends to justify the means in the gravest of situations.
A moment no one else has mentioned (I think) was the Prophets vanquishing the Dominion fleet in "Sacrifice of Angels" -- I honestly didn't know how the hell Sisko would stop them. I thought perhaps he'll collapse the wormhole on top of them or something, blow up the Defiant, eject escape pods... I wasn't sure. It shocked me and, at the same time, made me say "OK, so why don't the prophets just do that to all of the Jem'Hadar?"
A Starfleet captain, a hero, saying such... it just changed everything. It was the first real evidence of ultimate humanity. The first chink in the shining Utopian armor that, deep down, truly truly deep down, some element of the human race remains unchanged. Remains dark. Even if it's only a sliver. It exists within the best of us, even if only for the ends to justify the means in the gravest of situations.
A moment no one else has mentioned (I think) was the Prophets vanquishing the Dominion fleet in "Sacrifice of Angels" -- I honestly didn't know how the hell Sisko would stop them. I thought perhaps he'll collapse the wormhole on top of them or something, blow up the Defiant, eject escape pods... I wasn't sure. It shocked me and, at the same time, made me say "OK, so why don't the prophets just do that to all of the Jem'Hadar?"
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Forgot about that one. I loved that moment when the Prophets 'removed' the entire fleet. As to why they didn't just get rid of the Dominion, well, I suppose the Prophets just work in mysterious ways. Either that or DS9 wouldn't have been as interesting if they had
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Forgot about that one. I loved that moment when the Prophets 'removed' the entire fleet. As to why they didn't just get rid of the Dominion, well, I suppose the Prophets just work in mysterious ways. Either that or DS9 wouldn't have been as interesting if they had
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^I assumed they could only remove the fleet while they were inside the wormhole. probably not even REALLY remove them, just put them into this limbo Sisko ended up in in the pilot and just not returning them.
You'd didn't totally see that coming? 
I guess it was diminished for me cos I'd seen so much pre-episode hype. But still, random female Trill shows up the episode after Jadzia dies...
]The Jem'Hadar kamikaze run on the Odyssey. Still makes my heart stop.
Herkimer Jitty describes it better than me
Herkimer Jitty describes it better than me
I watched The Search today which was good for one reason - Odo finds not only where he is from, but that the Changelings are the Founders of this big scary-assed Dominion they've just started learning about.
Also: Odo kills another changeling; Odo becomes human; Gowron's a changeling; no, wait, Martok's a changeling; pretty much all of In Purgatory's Shadow and By Inferno's Light; the ending of Call to Arms; and of course In The Pale Moonlinght. Oh, I'm forgetting Damar's whole arc in season 7.
Holy-shit moment's really came by the busload in DS9, ah... *whistful memories*
Also: Odo kills another changeling; Odo becomes human; Gowron's a changeling; no, wait, Martok's a changeling; pretty much all of In Purgatory's Shadow and By Inferno's Light; the ending of Call to Arms; and of course In The Pale Moonlinght. Oh, I'm forgetting Damar's whole arc in season 7.
Holy-shit moment's really came by the busload in DS9, ah... *whistful memories*
One of the earliest "holy sh*t" moments was when Sisko uses the game of baseball to explain linear existence to the Wormhole Aliens. First, how clever, and second, wow, somebody's still playing baseball in the 24th century! -- RR
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Pretty much the end of every single season from 2 to 6 qualifies as a "holy s***!!" moment!
Think about it:
Season 2 (The Jem'Hadar): "Holy s***!! They went kamikaze on a Galaxy-class Federation ship!"
Season 3 (The Adversary): "Holy s***!! Changeling infiltrators are everywhere!"
Season 4 (Broken Link): "Double holy s***!! Odo's been transformed into a 'solid' and it looks like Klingon Chancellor Gowron is a Changeling"
Season 5 (Call To Arms): "Holy s***!! We've got to evacuate the station and it looks like the Federation's actually going to war with the Dominion!"
Season 6 (Tears Of The Prophets): "Holy s***!! Dukat killed Jadzia! The orbs have gone dark! Bajor's been cut off from the Prophets! And now it looks like Captain Sisko's going home and may or may not be coming back!"
Ira & Co. just seemed to have an effortless knack for upping the ante at the end of every season!
Think about it:
Season 2 (The Jem'Hadar): "Holy s***!! They went kamikaze on a Galaxy-class Federation ship!"
Season 3 (The Adversary): "Holy s***!! Changeling infiltrators are everywhere!"
Season 4 (Broken Link): "Double holy s***!! Odo's been transformed into a 'solid' and it looks like Klingon Chancellor Gowron is a Changeling"
Season 5 (Call To Arms): "Holy s***!! We've got to evacuate the station and it looks like the Federation's actually going to war with the Dominion!"
Season 6 (Tears Of The Prophets): "Holy s***!! Dukat killed Jadzia! The orbs have gone dark! Bajor's been cut off from the Prophets! And now it looks like Captain Sisko's going home and may or may not be coming back!"
Ira & Co. just seemed to have an effortless knack for upping the ante at the end of every season!
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