Pocket's '08 -'09 schedule - LOTS of new covers!
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USS Galaxy NCC-70637
USS Challenger NCC-71099
USS Yamato NCC-71807
USS Challenger NCC-71099
USS Yamato NCC-71807
An updated minipedia? Or is this another one of those 'maddeningly vague answers' situations?
Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
Huh... with 74 ebooks, a handful of short stories, and character cameos in other print books, I wonder just how "mini" this could really be...
I wonder if the Challenger was to be something similar to the Space Shuttle Challenger. Built for training purposes or testing and not meant for actual service then was refitted to be an active vessel.
In this case you are the one having the negative attitude, since my comment you quoted was in no way meant negative, I just thought it was funny how predictable both of us are in some things. It was a joking comment.
And so was mine.
well, the Challenger shuttle is why the starrship's got that registry number, the shuttle's 'registry' is OV-099. the starship's is 099 with 71 on the front...
it's more of a thing from RPG books and the notorious Franz Joseph books. If you look at the starship class lists on MA, the names are generally a mish-mash, except the Danube runabouts. The books have only done it (to my knowledge) with the Lunas, the 'Roman Hills' class and the archery-themed Archer class in Vanguard.
IRL, the USN has themed names for some ships, the 'Los Angeles' class attack subs are all cities, the 'Ohio' class ballistic-missile subs are all states, while carriers are frequently named for Presidents these days (U.S.S. George W Bush?!)....
The Royal Navy has 'County' class ships (but no HMS County), 'River' class (no HMS River) and 'Town' class (no HMS Town) (see wikipedia for more) but the idea of Starfleet suddenly adopting a theme to names, but with a seperate class name seems...odd, to say the least...
Originally Posted by JD
Does the idea that all of the names of ships from one class share a theme something you guys came up with or does it come from the shows? Either way, I think it's a really cool idea and I hope you guys stick with it.
it's more of a thing from RPG books and the notorious Franz Joseph books. If you look at the starship class lists on MA, the names are generally a mish-mash, except the Danube runabouts. The books have only done it (to my knowledge) with the Lunas, the 'Roman Hills' class and the archery-themed Archer class in Vanguard.
IRL, the USN has themed names for some ships, the 'Los Angeles' class attack subs are all cities, the 'Ohio' class ballistic-missile subs are all states, while carriers are frequently named for Presidents these days (U.S.S. George W Bush?!)....
The Royal Navy has 'County' class ships (but no HMS County), 'River' class (no HMS River) and 'Town' class (no HMS Town) (see wikipedia for more) but the idea of Starfleet suddenly adopting a theme to names, but with a seperate class name seems...odd, to say the least...
Actually it's the USS George H.W. Bush not USS George W. Bush. Carriers are frequently named after Presidents, that's correct, but not all. The Class is the Nimitz Class (named after WWII's Chester Nimitz) and includes the USS Nimitz and the USS John C. Stennis (named in honor of a Senator). Enterprise could be included in that but many see her as her own class.
Following the GHWB will be the USS Gerald Ford, the next generation class Carrier which will include two unnamed carriers. There are petitions in the Navy to have the CVN-79 or CVN-80 named Enterprise in honor of the soon to be decommissed CVN-65.
Also, the Ohio Class is mostly states (the Virginia Class is the only one to be named for states only). There are some Ohio's named for Senators (the Henry M. Jackson was originally supposed to be the Rhode Island). Same with the Los Angeles Class (includes the Hyman G. Rickover which is named for an Admiral in WWII).
Ah, okay. That doesn't bug me, so thanks for clarifying.^ I'm just being maddeningly vague because it's a long way off and I like to be mean.
Yeah, it'll be an updated minipedia.
So KRAD can we get a synopsis of ASD?
Also, I may have missed it but what is the reasoning behind The Romulan War being a TB istead of an MM?
Also, I may have missed it but what is the reasoning behind The Romulan War being a TB istead of an MM?
Basically, the novel will deal with the repercussions of the Destiny trilogy on the grand stage of the Alpha Quadrant, mostly through the POV of a civilian character of my creation, but also involving several other characters as well.
Why are you assuming that? There's no evidence to support the notion that there has to be a ship of the same name as the class.And of course USS Vesta.
If not, then the class name has no meaning.
Besides, it's happened with every major Trek ship class we have seen before (there are ships named Constitution, Defiant, Excelsior, Galaxy, Sovereign, etc.), so why not now?
Why are you assuming that? There's no evidence to support the notion that there has to be a ship of the same name as the class.And of course USS Vesta.
If not, then the class name has no meaning.
As stated above, that's not true; there are real-world ship classes whose overall names are not shared by any specific vessel within the class.
And just on general principles, why would the primary or exclusive meaning of a class name be "this class includes a ship of this name"? Presumably the meaning of the class name is the same as that of any category label: to define the overall category as distinct from other categories. One way of doing that is to name it for a characteristic single member of the category, but another is to give it a distinct name describing some common trait of all its members. For instance, the Zodiac is not named for any individual constellation within the Zodiac; its name comes from the Greek word for "living being," since most of its constituent constellations represent animals or people. So, for instance, you could have a Zodiac class including starships named Gemini, Taurus, Cancer, Aquarius, Leo, etc., but no starship Zodiac. The "meaning" of the class name would be perfectly clear, both in terms of where the name comes from and in that it represents a distinct class of vessel.
Actually the existence of ships named Constitution, Galaxy, and Sovereign is conjectural. None of those ships has ever been conclusively established to exist onscreen, merely proposed to exist in tie-in materials. It's just an assumption that all ship classes are named for the original ships of their class. We don't know for a fact that it's a universal pattern.
Took another look at the covers and just a couple random thoughts.
The biggest surprise for me is the cover for Errand of Fury. We saw sort of a mock up before that looked very similar and I was convinced that cover wasn't going to look anything like the final cover. The first 2 where banners and this one has an actor from the show on it. I was just surprised by it.
I think my favorite cover for the bunch is A Singular Destiny. I don't know how to explain it but it's like Rosetta, the cover just screeams "buy me" to me. One reason is it doesn't have an obvious ship or actor on it. Most are going to have that a LOT of reasons that make total sense, I'm just saying, a cover that doesn't have that once in awhile just really gets my attention.
The biggest surprise for me is the cover for Errand of Fury. We saw sort of a mock up before that looked very similar and I was convinced that cover wasn't going to look anything like the final cover. The first 2 where banners and this one has an actor from the show on it. I was just surprised by it.
I think my favorite cover for the bunch is A Singular Destiny. I don't know how to explain it but it's like Rosetta, the cover just screeams "buy me" to me. One reason is it doesn't have an obvious ship or actor on it. Most are going to have that a LOT of reasons that make total sense, I'm just saying, a cover that doesn't have that once in awhile just really gets my attention.
"Meet with Triumph and Disaster" establishes that at least the Yamato had been launched before the Enterprise-D, and Michael and I assumed that the Galaxy had been as well.
