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1989 Star Trek Prequel Script Similar to STXI?

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The year was 1989, and then on the table was Bennett's finished script for Star Trek: The Academy Years. "I had a joyful script about cadets Kirk and Spock in a simpler time," Bennett said...

In his script, Kirk and Spock were fresh-faced cadets at Starfleet Academy, joined by McCoy, older than the typical cadet and already a physician, having joined Starfleet to put behind him some of his life's tragedies including the death of his father as mentioned in ST V. Among the cadets' favorite instructors in the script was one Montgomery Scott, a teacher of mechanical sciences...


At the time of the story, warp speed had not been reached by Federation scientists - but would be by the end of the picture.

"I had a romance between Kirk and a cadet named Cassie, who dies bravely in his arms," he says, "which explains how he never came to love that way again."


Read the whole article here:

http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/news/article/110205.html
 
I love Bennett's enthusiasm, but the idea that he'd pitch something where the Federation hasn't achieved warp propulsion at the time Kirk and Spock are in the Academy is just ludicrous. I suppose one could argue that there's nothing specific in on-screen "canon" to contradict the notion, (honestly I can't recall if there is or isn't), but how could the Federation and Starfleet even exist in a pre-warp setting? It just doesn't make any sense to me.

And I really can't see "Lane Meyer" as Spock.
 
I suppose one could argue that there's nothing specific in on-screen "canon" to contradict the notion, (honestly I can't recall if there is or isn't),
That Zefram Cochrane was believed to have died 150 years before the events shown in "Metamorphosis" (as stated in dialogue) may be just what you're looking for.
 
I suppose one could argue that there's nothing specific in on-screen "canon" to contradict the notion, (honestly I can't recall if there is or isn't),
That Zefram Cochrane was believed to have died 150 years before the events shown in "Metamorphosis" (as stated in dialogue) may be just what you're looking for.

Thanks. I knew there was some kind of timeframe reference in "Metamorphosis", but I suppose there was still enough wiggle room in 1989 to argue about what that meant as far as when the Federation was able to implement warp drive. My point was simply that regardless of whatever canon/continuity issues might or might not exist, it simply makes no logical sense for the Feds to be pre-warp at the time of Kirk and Spock's Academy years.
 
My point was simply that regardless of whatever canon/continuity issues might or might not exist, it simply makes no logical sense for the Feds to be pre-warp at the time of Kirk and Spock's Academy years.
I quite agree. There is such a thing as stretching the "known facts" to credible limits, and then there is folding, spindling and mutilating them beyond all possible recognition, and the notion of the Federation being pre-warp at that time falls far closer to the latter than to the former.
 
If Bennett had the Federation be a prewarp society in that script, then I wonder what method of traveling the non-humans used to get around? Did the script have any sort of explanation for this? Obviously Spock's father met his human mother at some point. Unless he rewrote what had been well-established about Spock's background, there had to be someway for Sarek to travel to Earth as ambassador to meet Amanda and then they traveled BACK to Vulcan and raised Spock, and then Spock had to travel to Earth to go to Starfleet Academy. How could they have done that without warp travel?
 
If Bennett had the Federation be a prewarp society in that script, then I wonder what method of traveling the non-humans used to get around? Did the script have any sort of explanation for this? Obviously Spock's father met his human mother at some point. Unless he rewrote what had been well-established about Spock's background, there had to be someway for Sarek to travel to Earth as ambassador to meet Amanda and then they traveled BACK to Vulcan and raised Spock, and then Spock had to travel to Earth to go to Starfleet Academy. How could they have done that without warp travel?

It's doubtful they had that much detail in mind.
 
The year was 1989, and then on the table was Bennett's finished script for Star Trek: The Academy Years..."I had a romance between Kirk and a cadet named Cassie, who dies bravely in his arms," he says, "which explains how he never came to love that way again."


Read the whole article here:

http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/news/article/110205.html
My money is that this will be the case in STXI. I posted this possible plotline very recently making the comparison to James Bond in Casino Royale. From that point on, the two James would have an extremely difficult time committing to a long-term relationship, rarely if ever letting down their guard.
 
I think you could be on to something there T'Cal. It could explain why Carol Marcus was removed from the script's earlier draft—they decided it would make more dramatic sense for Kirk to lose a woman he loved via an untimely death, and that couldn't happen with her.
 
Maybe he meant pre-Time Warp barrier as stated in The Cage - widely accepted as the Warp 4 barrier.

Which is pretty good, I'd say. A Federation truly widely apart, and even the shortest trips takes ages - and then they go beyond Warp 4.
 
This script is like the Holy Grail -- has anyone ever seen a copy?

Why? Are you suggesting Harve Bennett is lying? If so, to what purpose?
I don't think he suggested any such thing.

The script has long existed only in rumor or allusion, from the standpoint of most of us regular folks, and the article seems to say that Bennett never produced a finished, complete script.

What middyseafort asked was whether anyone had seen a copy of it, presumably even one in incomplete or fragmentary form. I don't see any need to read any more into it than that.
 
This script is like the Holy Grail -- has anyone ever seen a copy?

Why? Are you suggesting Harve Bennett is lying? If so, to what purpose?

No.

I am saying that the actual script is something that I don't think fans have gotten their hands on. There is too much evidence, other interviews besides Bennett, David Lourghy for instances, for this script to be made up. There is also the pre-production sketches from the special edition DVD of TUC.
 
This script is like the Holy Grail -- has anyone ever seen a copy?

Why? Are you suggesting Harve Bennett is lying? If so, to what purpose?

No.

I am saying that the actual script is something that I don't think fans have gotten their hands on. There is too much evidence, other interviews besides Bennett, David Lourghy for instances, for this script to be made up. There is also the pre-production sketches from the special edition DVD of TUC.

OK, well I found this synopsis on Aintitcool.com:


STAR TREK: THE ACADEMY YEARS begins as TOS (movie) era McCoy addresses a Starfleet commencement. After his speech, several cadets corner the good doctor, who is standing alone, gazing into a reflecting pool. They nervously ask him about Kirk and Spock.

SECOND CADET: What were they like?

FIRST CADET: Were they friends?

McCOY: FRIENDS? I never met two less likely candidates for friendship in my entire life. That surprises you, doesn’t it? Well, it’s the gospel truth. They were as different as night and day. As Vulcan…and Iowa.

WOSH! We flashback to IOWA, which feels a lot like Smallville, where Sam Kirk is mortified by his brother Jim’s reckless shenanigans in a futuristic crop duster.

JIM: You worry too much!

SAM: That’s because you don’t worry at all!

Young Jim Kirk is the reckless son of a reckless father. Jim has little interested in an Earthbound existence, and yearns to attend Starfleet Academy. This doesn’t seem likely though – he’s scheduled to attend Agricultural school soon.

But he gets a message from Starfleet…he’s been accepted! One of 100 recruits. He leaves for the Academy without the blessings of his mother or brother, who are afraid Jim will get swept up in a brewing galactic conflict (more on this below), or meet with the same fate as his father (more on this below, too.) Kirk leaves Iowa, walking alone into a bigger world.

ON VULCAN: Young Spock is being confronted by an associate named Shardik, who is trying to convince him to decline his acceptance to Starfleet Academy on Earth. No Vulcan has ever gone through Starfleet. He’ll be alone. But he’s already alone…

SHARDIK: Your decision in this matter is not logical.

SPOCK: On the contrary. It is logic that tells me I do not belong here.

Kirk arrives in San Francisco (home of Starfleet Academy), and immediately gets lost. A country boy with a ruck sack on his shoulder, the big city folk dismiss him out of hand. He can’t even get directions to the Academy. He finally manages to get there, via a speeder bike ride from a fiery chick named CASSANDRA HIGHTOWER, who becomes a love interest later in the film.

Kirk makes it to the Academy, instantly gets into a dust-up with a dude named KALIBAR.

KALIBAR: We wouldn’t want to get into a fight on our first day.

KIRK: What would we have to look forward to?

This is a prophetic exchange; Kirk and Kalibar will eventually clash. Bigtime.

Kirk’s room mate in the academy is an older inductee named Leonard McCoy. Kirk hates the name Leonard, sticks him with the name “Bones”.

Also hanging around the Academy: An Engineering Officer who has been consigned to teaching, over his rather loud objections. The guy’s name is Montgomery Scott. “Scotty”. He’s been part of a Starfleet propulsion program for years – aimed at utilizing Dilithium crystals in Warp engines. Seems contemporary Warp speed takes hours to attain. Dilithium makes Warp speed instantaneous.

Scotty knew Kirk’s father.

SCOTTY: Are you any relation to George Kirk?

JIM: George Kirk was my father.

SCOTTY: I dinna know George had a family.

JIM: Neither did George.

Turns out, George Kirk was also working on the Dilithium project with Scotty – he piloted a test ship, called Bonaventure, which disappeared without a trace during its first Dilithium-fueled Warp jump. Scotty shows Kirk his stash of Dilithuim, which is sitting around unused, and useless. All of this will be important in the script’s finale.

Academy “settling in” antics ensue. Pushy drill instructors, Kirk gets busted and cleans toilets, etc. But there’s a problem at the Academy – the same problem which threatens to catapult the galaxy into civil war. Seems the “enlightenment” exalted by characters in THE ORIGINAL SERIES hasn’t come about just yet (evidence of this exists in several TOS episodes, including “Balance of Terror”, “Let That Be Your Last Battlefield”, and “Bread and Circuses”)

Racism, bigotry, and slavery are still powerful forces across the galaxy in this time. “Red bloods”, “Green bloods”, etc. are delineations that are not only still noted, but acted upon by many. They are differences that are still feared.

Some believe it’s up to the Federation to impose more sophisticated values (opposing slavery, etc.) on worlds that haven’t “caught up”. Others believe that it’s no one’s place to push morality on anyone, and that upsetting such social constructs will cause shockwaves of socio-economic repercussions that will destabilize the galaxy. Treaties are in the works…the Federation is involved…ambassadors are in town for meetings…military intervention is in the air. What will happen is anyone’s guess.

As such, Spock arrives at the Academy with no particular amount of acceptance. He came to find a place he belongs. Instead, he is no more at home here than he was back on Vulcan. Spock even finds himself abducted and brutally mutilated by HOODED CADETS. He is rescued by Kirk, who never really thought about issues like equality, bigotry, and freedom – but is now being forced to confront them head on. He’s being forced to grow. They all are.

Turns out, Kalibar (the guy who Kirk bumped into when he got to Starfleet) is a prince from an alien world whose economy is driven by slavery. He’s one of the guys who kidnapped and messed up Spock. As punishment, he’s expelled from the Academy, leaving in a flourish. At roughly the same time, Kalibar learns that his father, the King, was killed in an uprising back home. Everything in Kalibar’s universe is falling apart. Or, perhaps it’s going just the way he wants it to…

ELSEWHERE: KODARIS, an alien ambassador from Kalibar’s world, signs an anti-slavery proclamation! No one at Starfleet is sure how to react. But Kalibar is pissed.

STARFLEET. Kirk and Cassandra make love, silhouetted against the stars in a zero-gravity space simulator. A weightless dance. We learn that Cassandra is also a cadet, gunning for captaincy like Kirk.

“Cuts” are coming up soon. Grade and character based evaluations are being made, only 20 of the initial 100 inductees will continue to be midshipmen. And Kirk’s in trouble: His Quantum Mechanics suck and he’s close to washing out.

Quantum Mechanics being one of his better subjects, Spock mind melds with Kirk -- teaching him all he needs to know to pass the test. Kirk scores 100. So does Spock. They make the cut! Two of the 20. Cassandra get through as well.
Starfleet realizes Kirk and Spock’s essays are word-for-word identical. They confess to cheating and are confined to quarters, while Cassandra and the other new midshipmen are sent to their first training assignment.

EARTH ORBIT: Cassandra, the midshipmen, and McCoy rendezvous with their ship: “An old ship of the line, a war horse, battered and patched. Its design may not be familiar, but its name is. U.S.S. Enterprise.”

They break orbit, heading off to their training mission. But it’s not a training mission at all. In order to attract as little attention as possible, Ambassador Kodaris…the guy who signed the treaty abolishing slavery on Kalibar’s world…has been spirited aboard the currently low-profile Enterprise, commanded by CAPTAIN GEOFFREY THORPE. Their “training” is to take him home. The crew is apprehensive as hell. So many things could go wrong. And everything does.

KALIBAR ATTACKS, immediately disabling Enterprise. Cutting her off from communications with Earth. Kalibar wants to kill the Ambassador – he blames him for screwing up the way of life back home. If Enterprise gives up the Ambassador, Kalibar will let the ship go free. Thorpe tells him no way.

EARTH: Kirk is sick of being confined to quarters and is packing to leave Starfleet altogether. He’s going to join the “merchant fleet”. As he leaves, Spock is standing in the doorway.

SPOCK: This merchant fleet – does it accept Vulcans?

They’re on the way to hand in their resignations when they hear that Enterprise has dropped communications and may be under attack. She’s a sitting duck; no way to talk to her and no way to physically reach her in time.
But Kirk has an idea…

Kirk, Scotty, and Spock steal a prototype Warp ship from the Starfleet Museum. The Bonaventure II, the sequel ship to the ship Kirk’s dad disappeared in. They load it up with Scotty’s Dilithium and fly it out of the museum. They’re off to warn Enterprise she may be attacked. But to do it in time, they’ll have to make the first successful Dilithium- Warp jump. They all doubt the sanity of this undertaking , but they do it anyway.

They arrive at Enterprise! But it’s too late. Thorpe is dead, the ship is smashed, and Cassandra is in command. Things aren’t going well. Enterprise, and her crew, are dying.

Kirk, Scotty, and Spock jump into action. If Scotty can get those damn Dilithium crystals into Enterprise’s engines…they can change the ship into a fast, maneuverable vessel Kalibar won’t, and couldn’t, expect. They might have a fighting chance.

A mammoth battle ensues, as Enterprise and Kalibar clash in a high-speed fight amongst the rings of a giant world. Dodging some ice chunks, smashing into others. Kirk chances into command of Enterprise…with Scotty in engineering, Spock feeding him information, and Bones tending to the wounded in sickbay (Nurse Chapel at his side). A new era has begun!

But not for long…

The script goes through a great deal of effort to bring the “classic” characters together, but it doesn’t take the easy way out. As the flashback concludes, the “classic” guys go their separate ways…to other ships and other adventures…fated to meet again. “Jim and Spock walk way in opposite directions, headed for a common destiny.”

BACK WITH TOS (MOVIE) ERA McCoy. His communicator beeps. It’s Scotty, asking if he’s ready to beam up now. Seems the captain’s eager to move out. McCoy excuses himself, takes one last look around.

McCOY: Beam me up, Scotty.

SPACE: The TOS (movie) era Enterprise warps away to distant stars.


http://www.aintitcool.com/node/22789
 
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I may be in the minority, but I kind of like it! I think it could have worked out well as long as everything else fell into place (good casting etc.).
 
^^^^^^^^

Wow! If that AICN synopsis is real, then thank God that movie wasn't made. Something about the period seems, well, too primitive. Forget the Feds not even having warp drive. Kirk gets lost in SF? Can't find the Academy? What, no GPS in his time? Not even MapQuest?

And people in SF are prejudiced against an Iowan? (And, thank God Iowans are still sterotyped as small-towners in the 23rd century.) Flyover state prejudice in the 23rd century. What's up with that?

I wonder if this synopsis was from a last draft of the script or not.
 
Yeah there are definitely some things I'd prefer to see rewritten in it, but I think it could have been salvageable for a good movie, or maybe my taste just sucks. ;)
 
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