Uncontacted tribe photographed in Brazil
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All Seeing Eye
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Y'know I was thinking about this and the thought came to me... anyone who doubts that an overt first contact between humans and extra-terrestrial aliens would involve the humans pointing every weapon we have at them (and maybe an itchy finger or two letting fly) should have all doubt removed with one look at this picture.
As far as these people are concerned, the plane passing over their village might as well be an alien spacecraft. They don't understand it, and they in tried and true human style, came out and met the not-understood with "guns drawn" (bows.. but you know what I mean by the phrase).
There's a difference between them and modern society. If an unidentified craft enters someones airspace then yes it will likely be intercepted but thats not the same as pointing your guns at it, the plane would be sent to investigate, if it turned out to be an alien craft then I doubt they'd be given the order to shoot and would instead try to make contact. These primitive savages on the other hand are so educationally primitive that their first thought is shoot and kill. If aliens landed on Earth we'd make contact and try to make peacful dialogue, if we went to these savages village within seconds you'll be pumped full of arrows.
These tribal people and modern society humans are so different we might aswell compare these tribal people to cave men, they likely share the same level of intelligence, I mean consider this for a minute, who the hell with any amount of common sense would think an arrow from a bow would reach THAT far into the sky? these tribal people are completely thick.
It is our responsibility to ensure these primitive people are contacted and educated.
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Real amazing story for this day and age.
Seems to me this same type of story was reported in the Philippines about 15 years ago and there was considerable debate on what to do next.
Seems to me this same type of story was reported in the Philippines about 15 years ago and there was considerable debate on what to do next.
The passing plane should have dropped an empty coke bottle down there...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080801/
A Sho in the Kalahari desert encounters technology for the first time--in the shape of a Coke bottle...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080801/
A Sho in the Kalahari desert encounters technology for the first time--in the shape of a Coke bottle...
Sadly, in the case of Deimos Anomaly, the program has thus far proven to be less than an unqualified success.
Why do you assume they should? Consider the case of the shark, modern forms of which date back a hundred million years. Things stop evolving once they work. Why try to fix what isn't broken?
Just because you don't think there's enough fresh adversity in their lives for them to strive to overcome doesn't mean we should just introduce some for the hell of it. Why play God?
Or about the Sentinelese in the Andaman islands, two years ago (who had previously exhibited similar behavior to that described in the earlier part of this thread, threatening approaching boats and helicopters with bow and arrow.
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You started off with the beginnings of an accurate assessment in you first paragraph, but then you began losing it with "These primitive savages on the other hand are so educationally primitive that their first thought is shoot and kill." Your second paragraph does little more than belittle the intelligence of the tribespeople, based on no evidence at all, and the concluding sentence positively reeks of "White Man's Burden" while wearing a pith helmet and trailing a line of native porters.
Is that really what you intended to say? It sounds like something from a British colonial mindset of more than a hundred fifty years ago, and not one of the more enlightened parts.
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They are not savages. They no doubt have complex social system, a language as rich as many language used by Western nations, a technology that is suitable for their environment. No doubt they have a great deal of knowledge that you, yourself, do not possess. Their children are no doubt educated, it is just a different sort of education from what our children receive. Their intelligence would be equal to that of any other people on Earth.
If we force them to assimilate they will be decimated by disease which they have no immunity from and how can the dead fit in to modern society?
Unfortunately my ancestors has the same sort of opinion as you and as a result the original 4000 odd Tasmanians were almost entirely wiped out killed by disease, starved as their hunting lands were taken from them, or murdered by settlers. Only a handful of women survived, and only two of them of those women, Dolly Dalrymple and Fanny Cochrane Smith. are known for sure to have left any descendants.
I don't want what happened to the Tasmanians to happened to other people.
They probably have some idea of what a plane is. I doubt that these people are total isolates and they must have heard something about the outside world from other tribes.
I was going to bring up the Sentinelese myself after I read the opening post. The indian government made a very wise decision with their policy of leaving the Sentinelese in peace even after the Sentinelese killed the two fishermen.
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Sorry, double post
DontFeedPhil
Fleet Captain
Just think. Those tribe people are what is left after the other 99.99% of people actually evolved and learned new things. If the whole world were a clasroom. They would be the dunce. They basically failed at life and humanity and all that. Sad really...
yessiree. They MUST be failures after all. They should be threatening the planet with nuclear holocaust, crashing planes into buildings, and turning acres of land into dumping grounds without bothering to tell those who LIVE on that land. You know, just like us; The real winners of the civilization game. 
It could be argued the other way as well...Just think. Those tribe people are what is left after the other 99.99% of people actually evolved and learned new things. If the whole world were a clasroom. They would be the dunce. They basically failed at life and humanity and all that. Sad really...
Think they're worried about the price of gas and whether or not Star Trek XI will violate existing canon? Those poor savages are out hunting and fishing and singing every day, how can they stand it?
Coming at things from a different perspective, I think it's worth mentioning that the lifestyle that the western world has today is not sustainable. We are running out of resources, and cannot live as we are forever more. I'm not sure that we will cope that easily as our oil runs out for instance. Another resource that is slowly becoming an issue is our food supply. These 'primitive' people are largely immune from these issues... if we let them be.
I think you've been watching too much Star Trek. What actually would happen would be a freak-out of massive proportions. The aliens have the tech to violate our space with impunity and they have the gall to actually do so. That's how most people in positions of power would view it, in my estimation. Combined with the resource crunch and a more trigger-happy world attitude (Thank you Bush, Blair, and the rest of you twits...) I highly doubt that should the ETs pay us a visit, we'd all lower our guns and sing kumbaya. Millions from the fundies to the power-brokers in our banks and capitol buildings would go nuts over the toppling of the status quo that gives them power and many more would be gearing up to get as much info and tech as possible, focibly if they have to, to use against others.
Oh totally. At first it'd be military radar and aegis telling us we have an inbound icbm or whatever... US goes to red alert. Russia thinks its provocation so goes to red alert. China joins in the fun... then india and pakistan. Everyone is on red alert. US wouldn't want to hang about.. Patriot would be activated... Fighter jets scrambled... President would go into hiding... Wall street has a day off... The craft would be intercepted. That's the new policy on national defense.
What an amusement it would be for the aliens...
*Onboard the alien vessel, random bright flashes are seen on the planet surface below.*
T'Pau: "Analysis, Mr Spock"
Spock: "ILLOGICAL... WE COME TO SAY LIVE LONG AND PROSPER AND THEY OBLITERATE THEMSELVES."
On the topic of contact with alien species, or seeing alien craft (this plane for example) would be differently received depending on your knowledge and education. For example these primitives would react much more warlike towards it perhaps, because they simply don't understand it. In our modern society though, we'd understand such things better. We are more educated about technology and space, and we can figure out for the most part how something like an alien space craft would be possible. If we saw an alien beam down to Earth, we wouldn't think it was magic or God, we'd think it was technology, whereas these primitives would see it as magic, or God, thus we would react differently. If we saw an alien space ship orbit Earth, we wouldn't be so surprised by it because we know its possible with technology.