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Okay, so will [SPOILER!] be back?

Mitty

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Will Jin be back?

He was at the back of the boat... he may have gotten "blown off" into the ocean.

Problem being though, the boat exploded, and the helicopter flew back to the island... and then the island beamed out. So by the looks of it the island and everything touching it (including the water) vanished, but the chopper didn't, obviously.

So did the wreck of the Freighter go along with the island, including Jin (either alive or dead)? Or was Jin left floating in the middle of the ocean?

I'm personally convinced Jin is probably still alive.

And a second question:

Sun goes to Widmore. Is she working with Sayid and co, or is she actually now out for revenge? And was her meeting with him prior or after Ben's meeting with Widmore?
 
My guess on the Survivors whose fate is "unknown".

Michael is dead. - 99% sure on this.
Jin is alive, but everyone thinks he's dead who's not on the island - 75% sure
Locke is dead in the futue but will be revived by the island - 95% sure
Claire is dead but like Christian is now serving the island - 90% sure
Faraday and his group on the raft - will find their way back on the island in the first couple of episodes of Season 5 - 80% sure
Anyone else on the boat when it exploded - could be alive or dead, I don't remember anyone important being on their like Rose, Bernard, etc, etc.

For me, the only confirmed kills were Michael, Claire and Keamy.

Also, I've read a rumour that Claire will not be back for Season 5 at all but will return for season 6 so that's interesting. I wonder if they'll do something similiar with Jin.....
 
My gut instinct says he'll be back. There have been enough relationships used as sacrificial pawns, like Michael & Walt, Danielle & Alex, Alex & Ben, Claire & Charlie. With all the death and disaster, Jin and Sun can be reunited without anyone accusing Lost of going soft on us. The only reason not to give them a happy ending is if it seems like a cop-out.
 
It's totally possible he'll be back, but more likely he's dead. Everything I heard said there would be three deaths in the finale. Michael, Jin and I guess the third would be Keamy.
 
Why are people saying Claire is dead? She just walked off with Christian. There was no killing involved...

Now Michael is 100% dead. The island finally LET HIM DIE. (Christian even said so...)
 
It's totally possible he'll be back, but more likely he's dead. Everything I heard said there would be three deaths in the finale. Michael, Jin and I guess the third would be Keamy.

Locke counts as dead (the three were supposed to be series regulars), even if he's alive for every episode from now on till the series finale (love that flashback structure!), when the island resurrects his corpse and he goes off to set up housekeeping with ole Smokey.
 
Usually when someone on lost dies, they dont make it ambigous.

Boone, long dragged out death, Shannon, Libby, Anna Lucia, shot, Artz, blown up, the two theives, buried alive, Mr Eko, beaten to death by the black smoke, Charlie, drowned, with a long lingering shot of him clearly dead.

If Jin was going to die in that explosion there would have been a close up of him being consumed by the flames, so you would know there is no doubt.
 
I think Jin is as dead as a doorknob. Michael I'm 50/50 on. Locke will of course come back when he reaches the Island.
 
With the revelation that Charlotte speaks Korean I'm pretty sure Jin will wind up being alive. Foreshadowing... :D
 
The reason I think he is alive is because he did not die a meaningful death. He didn't die saving anyone (like Charlie or Michael). If Jin had been the one to do what Michael did, buying time for the helicopter people to escape, I would believe that he is dead. I think he'll either swim back to the island (if he was "moved" with it) or be picked up by Faraday (and then be stranded or "moved" with the island). Sun and Jin will be reunited.

As for Michael. He's toast. He fulfilled his "mission" from the Island.
 
i think they had jin were he was near the back of the boat just to give him a chance of being alive.
i also believe claire is still alive.
kate saw her in a dream and not the kind of vision that christian /charlie appeared in to people.
 
- I'd like to see Michael back, but I think he's gone for good, though Perrineau might be back in a flashback or as an island ghost. [Edit] I just read the article in the other thread. He may be gone, but I still think there's a good chance we'll see him again in some form.

- I'd like to see Frank, but I'm not sure if we will or not. It could go either way.

- Desmond will be back. His flashbacks aren't done and he's associated with Penny and Widmore, so we'll see him again.

- I don't think Jin is dead.
 
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I think Jin is alive, and somehow makes it back to the island. Sun obviously thinks that he is dead, and she blames two people - Jack and Ben. Jack wouldn't wait for Jin to get on the helicopter. Ben killed Keamy, which triggered the explosion on the freighter. So I think Sun is legitimately teaming up with Widmore to take down Ben, and that will set up the drama in season 5.
 
There's no way Jin and Michael are dead. Neither of them got close-up deaths. Michael didn't reach the island, and the island won't let him die, it wants him back.

Some people seem to be convinced the "you can go now" means he could die. He was stuck in that room with all the explosives. "You can go now" could just as easily mean "you can leave the room" ... We don't know how much "real" time happened between when he left that room and when it went kablooey ... It's just as easy to see them making it off the ship and then it goes boom, though that doesn't make for dramatic television.
 
Christian seems to be one of the island's representatives. I think by telling Michael he can go, that meant that the island has gotten what it wants out of Michael and now he's free to finally die, as he wanted to.

I do think that Jin is still alive and kicking, though.
 
I think he'll either swim back to the island (if he was "moved" with it)
If Jin is alive, he must be with the island or he would have made some attempt to reach Sun.

But he was further away from the island than the copter when it did its vanishing act, so how could he have moved with it if the copter didn't?

The only explanation I can come up with is that the ocean wasn't very deep (reefs maybe? the boat was going to move as close to the island as they dared) and the Looking Glass was under it or close enough that Jin could find it by accident. Hey that wouldn't be the worst coincidence they've thrown at us!

The Looking Glass didn't seem like it could be that far from the island but I don't remember if that was established. Anyway, it could roam all over the ocean floor as far as we know. And being "connected" to the island, it would go with it (like the small island did) regardless of whether the copter was closer to the island at the time.

Ben killed Keamy, which triggered the explosion on the freighter.
How would she find out about that? Did Desmond see the deadman switch on Keamy?

I think Sun blames Widmore for sure - he sent Keamy, after all, and the mission was to kill not just Jin but all of them. She might blame Ben simply for being the motivating factor. But why not blame Kate? She lied to get Sun on the copter.
 
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